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  1. #1
    Player
    Gwydion's Avatar
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    Gwydion Don
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    As a player who has a hard time playing content because I live in China for work, I was nerf away. Let the Hardcores go to coil 6-9 and let me try the old stuff. It will still be hard for me and my 400+ ping. I feel like some people just don't want others to have fun. A nerf after 6 months may seem fast, but I think the level of content being released merits this pace of nerfness. Let us have have our fun.
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    xenosuke1's Avatar
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    Blanche Ronfhildstine
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    the thing ppl dont realize is that when you get geared like you are now in 2.1 for 2.2 its gunna feel like a nerf anyways even if they didnt nerf it. better gear means easier fights on old content so stop complaining and move on. now if you said i want to exp the old fights while using my old 2.1 gear thn yes it would suck when its nerfed, but no your gunna do it in your new 2.2 gear so tell me whats the difference.
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    Last edited by xenosuke1; 03-23-2014 at 07:55 PM.

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    ninthfantasy's Avatar
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    Lunaa Moon
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I was thinking the same as I read the patch notes, Ampador Keep getting nerfed, Pharos getting nerfed so it's of the same difficultly level as Haukke Manor HM and Copperbell Mines HM - both of which are not even difficult. I loved Pharos for it's difficulty, I always sighed when I got it into DF but I still went and did it, with a good group it's a fun dungeon. But now it'll be less fun as the challenge will be sucked out of it. As for AK, I know it already got nerfed, but to nerf it again...? Demon Wall isn't that hard, can get it down before bugs even spawn in some parties. I know this what MMOs do, but I just feel as if these dungeons didn't need to be made easier. They weren't difficult in the first place, apart from Pharos, but that was an enjoyable difficulty.
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    Player HeroSamson's Avatar
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    Zanon Reeves
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    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Deal with it, people work sometimes not having any time at all to get on game but enjoy the game and wanna continue sorry if they don't have your time schedule, so SE meets the demands to that crowd and you wanna whine about it.

    Sorry but I agree with SE on this because then nobody gets left behind waiting to get into a party when they are using duty, I noticed a very long wait on my low level jobs trying to get into a dungeon just imagine how bad it will be when more content comes out oh because you had to beat the content super quick well that's your problems maybe you shouldn't stay up all night and burn through the game and think you are better than everyone else and game revolves around you cause it don't.
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    Player HeroSamson's Avatar
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    Zanon Reeves
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    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    I find this really funny, I believe most of these players who complain about the nerf are the same players who thought SOA from FFXI was too hard.

    I wonder how many people from WoW are complaining also, that probably don't complain about getting free levels when you start again on WoW.

    Here is another the same people who waited for hours with their flag up in FFXI then they made it easier to find a party or made Abyss where you can level to 99 quick but nope didn't hear complains about that but all of a sudden it means something in FFXIV when they do something cracks me the hell up.
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    Greed's Avatar
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    Character
    Red Moon
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    I guess they can make echo buff removable like in other mmo -> don't like it? don't use it
    (though 99.9% of people use it)
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    The problem is: not everyone is skilled, no matter how many times they wipe, practice or read guides they will never be good/perfect at it. Yes i'm one of these, no matter how much i tried i could never beat Titan HM without dying for a freaking plume, i always finish the fight dead, last run i died in the last hit, i felt like Titan said: "let's taste hell together" and we both died at the same time. I don't have good reaction and i probably never will so after failing so hard on my last practice group i moved on and never looked back, i had an easier time with Garuda EX and so far i'm holding my breath to try Titan EX or do the relic quest for my subclass until the echo buff is out.

    I can tell many people are like me, they will never be able to play or have fun with some content because the wall is in their own skills so i approve the changes.
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    Player Axlle10's Avatar
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    Axle Ten
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Betox View Post
    The problem is: not everyone is skilled
    Here is exhibit A of why SE is being smart by doing these changes. All you hardcores really need to get your heads out of your behinds and actually think about people that dont have the time to devote to the game but still want some FUN. For you hardcores it is all about the CHALLENGE, for casuals it is all about the FUN. sure everyone likes a little challenge from content, but when you run titan ex and 1 person makes a mistake, it then is not a challenge to you but a massive headache. No fun is to be had when stuff like that happens.

    tldr:
    Everyone enjoys different things, casuals=FUN, hardcore=Challenge. I approve of these changes because i will now get to clear these with my FC mates instead of the elitist "KILL EXP ONLY" parties that 90% of the time belittle and berate anyone who makes one mistake.
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Axlle10 View Post
    Everyone enjoys different things, casuals=FUN, hardcore=Challenge.
    Very poor way to label. The correct way is Casuals = Fun, Hardcore = Fun. The problem with how you did it is you label Hardcore players as not having fun, when in fact, the challenge is what MAKES it fun. If there's no challenge, it's the same as watching TV. ie Fun is subjective. Everyone plays a game to have fun, your fun isn't the same as everyone elses.
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    ZephyrAM's Avatar
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    Character
    Lynia Celeste
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Very poor way to label. The correct way is Casuals = Fun, Hardcore = Fun. The problem with how you did it is you label Hardcore players as not having fun, when in fact, the challenge is what MAKES it fun. If there's no challenge, it's the same as watching TV. ie Fun is subjective. Everyone plays a game to have fun, your fun isn't the same as everyone elses.
    There is a difference here though. A hardcore player 'will' push through something, even if they don't enjoy it, to achieve a goal. They may enjoy a good challenge, but they're there to achieve.

    A 'casual' will likely just go elsewhere for enjoyment. Everything is about the fun. If it isn't fun, it's not worth doing.
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    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/1556132 ~ Lynia Celeste

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