Why I don't like the idea of paying for extra retainers.

[Djeserit]

I'm on the edge about this personally.

If it was just extra storage I would shrug and move on but with the "Venture" system it's selling power to players in a way...I'm not a fan.

More retainers to earn things = more supply = less overall demand = lower prices.

Sure, the first month or so extra retainers may make people some extra money, but after that it's pure convenience.

[Ravno]

I would consider that an advantage for players that decide to pay extra money.

But, you don't need to sells extra retainers for that, actually, a player can register 2 standard accounts and get a total of 16 retainers.

[AmyNeudaiz]

But, you don't need to sells extra retainers for that, actually, a player can register 2 standard accounts and get a total of 16 retainers.

32* you mean.

[Felis]

But, you don't need to sells extra retainers for that, actually, a player can register 2 standard accounts and get a total of 16 retainers.

This

standard + standard (30$ ), standard + Legacy (25$) or Legacy + Legacy (20$).
If you only count the 16 retainers on the 2nd account as extra retainers then it would be 1.88$ (S+S) - 1.25$ (L+L) for each extra retainer

[10TailBeast]

If they start putting in ACTUAL P2W stuff like EXP boosters/Best gear in the game only found at Cash Shops/etc

Square will sell as much as they can as long as people keep buying. Seeing how many apologists will give them money hand over fist, it's only a matter of time before full-on P2W items become available. Everquest Next was confirmed for PC as well as PS4 (Square would do well to remember that) and is F2P. If I want a cash shop, I'll play that.

[Loony_BoB]

This is just a cheaper option for those of us who don't want to pay the full sub for a mule that they can trade with (ie, a second account... not to be confused with a second character on the same account) and I think it's absolutely fine. This is something that has been planned/intended since the launch of 1.0.

[SirSaber]

Why I don't think we don't need another thread on this.

1.) Already plenty of threads full of "Opinions" on the subject.


2.)

This.

And also:

-Don't wanna pay?
-Then don't.

[Starlord]

Square will sell as much as they can as long as people keep buying. Seeing how many apologists will give them money hand over fist, it's only a matter of time before full-on P2W items become available. Everquest Next was confirmed for PC as well as PS4 (Square would do well to remember that) and is F2P. If I want a cash shop, I'll play that.

I suppose I should thank threads like this then to show SE we don't like P2W items. I hope they see this and don't go any further than storage space. ( if Retainers don't sell well they may even discontinue the service. So vote with your money!

Edit: Threads like these made the 360 day Vet rewards which was at first kinda lame, is now kinda alright. I do respect threads like these for the greater good. However, sometimes some threads get taken out of hand (personal opinion).

One thing is for sure, SE (Yoshi-P) does listen and the 360 vet day change is proof of that.

do NOT cave in and buy one extra retainer.

Well, good news I am one of the people that doesn't need extra space in fact if I could give away some inv. space I would :P.

Edit: Retainer Venture's probably has more to it then people think there is. I may not use the Retainer Venture system after I fiddle with it. Will see though. There is a chance these extra Retainer's can't get involved with venturing.

[TrystWildkey]

Well everyone needs to be a special little snowflake and make their own topic about it.

Yes, and apparently everyone else just waits for new threads so they can jump in and be the first few with a snarky comment.

Go hug a lalafell instead, sheesh.

This guy has points, good points that I can't dismiss just because *sarcastic tone* he had the nerve to post a new thread *end sarcastic tone* so his good points wouldn't be lost in among the snarky ones.

Yeah, I'm against the retainer fees too. Only because of the venture system. If it was just storage, that wouldn't be so bad. BUT, when you allow these extra retainers to go gather things that can only be gathered by the retainer then you're giving an unfair advantage to the people that can pay to have more retainers.

If you are against this, please, please for the love of all that is holy, do NOT cave in and buy one extra retainer. We all think things like "Well, me buying just one retainer won't make a difference, so many people are upset at this feature that it'll show in the numbers." BUT, if everyone thinks that, then no one is protesting by not making the purchase.

To be clear: I am against this because the venture system allows you to get items that cannot be obtained any other way. This is a way to pay for an advantage in-game. This has no place in a subscription based game.

[Doo]

Why people like paying for extra retainers as well as other stuff:

1) Many players don't have time to play games so getting any extra advantage is good.

2) Many players don't enjoy farming/grinding for loot (even though that's what mmos are usually about) So anything that takes away grinding or makes game life easier is good.

3) RMT is big business because players like to get things without having to farm/grind.


So really there's nothing you can do about the cash shops and small pay for advantages because there's just really too big of a demand for it.