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    Player
    Merciless's Avatar
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    Merciless Marquess
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    Exodus
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Clavaat View Post
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    Someone already replied on how SE themselves name the $15 plan the standard subscription tier so I'll leave that alone.

    As I said I don't care about this from an inventory space standpoint. I'm more concerned about the possibility of retainer ventures and players who buy this option having an advantage on those that don't.

    One more note for those claiming that someone with two accounts will have an advantage over players with one account. Of course they will! But for all intents and purposes that would be considered two completely separate players. There is no advantage if you want to pay for 2 or 3 or 4 accounts because you are simply treated as that many different users at that point. It's no different then sharing items and loot with a good friend, except you are doing it with yourself. But if you let one of those accounts pay more per month to gain an advantage for one of those characters then I would have an issue.
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    Seif Dincht
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 72
    You are missing the point. The truth is in just a few months this game will have a working cash shop with at least 3 products already confirmed. This will just continue meanwhile all these things that could have been truly meaningful quest rewards are now only for those who pay even more than just a sub.

    Meanwhile the only thing that the players are rewarded is just mounts and +1 gear.
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    ReplicaX's Avatar
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    Methos Ranperre
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    You are missing the point.
    No, I'm not missing it at all.

    Pre-Planned before Launch Fees I knew were coming.
    • Sub Fees
    • Additional/Optional Retainers when Venture system is ready to launch.

    Until I personally see how much Ventures impact the game. I am in a holding pattern on this.

    Player Demand from these forums since beta:
    • Cash Shop Threads (regarding Vanity and other items not considered PTW)
    • Purchasable Vial of Fantasia via Mog Station

    If you didn't expect a Cash Shop outcome, idk what to tell you honestly.

    P2P with Non-PTW Cash Shops is already in the Industry and has been.
    (Thank player demand)

    You can now thank Blizzard for introducing a P2P with PTW model in the Industry.
    (We will see more of it, if player demand is there.)

    If the game falls under a true P2P with PTW. I'm canceling, period.
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    Merciless Marquess
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    Exodus
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Just because a feature was planned a long time ago doesn't mean it's a good feature that we have to like. If an item you buy from a cash shop has any impact on the actual gameplay or economy of a game I will be against it.
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    Buster Posey
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I probably wouldn't have as much items if I didn't constantly get undercut every time I put something up for sale.
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    Kat Fuzzington
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 73
    BTW you can already change your name, it just takes a bit of money and 3 RL days of time. Sure you'd still look the same but I don't go around suspecting every character who looks the same as some other character to be that character. xD Plus you could get a haircut and an eyebrow change already... /thinks... so yeah I suppose bad people could already easily get away with being bad.
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    Thysis Bryne
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 45

    Why?

    Why do the Retainers have a limited inventory space to begin with? do they just carry a flippin bag around with them? I could understand calling them from a place they were not hired from, like calling a retainer into Gridania and they were hired in Limsa, but if you called them from Limsa and they were hired in Limsa then they should have access to a Warehouse or whatnot. that would be a cool way to get rid of the inventory problem. But to have to pay more money to the already freakishly high subscription cost of 14.95 and not being able to mail to alt characters is rediculous. I would rather go back to paying Eve Online my 14.95 a month and there you have a flippin infinite inventory.
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