Crafting Needs a Place in Endgame Raiding

[SchalaZeal]

I would be fine with that, I would also be fine with an item dropping from a raid or dungeon that's needed to craft an item and that thing being untradeable.

If the item drops from new-coil (T6-9) we effectively have a one-week-lockout item (provided you can even go T6 right off, not everyone will). It could also be bought with Soldiery tomes and I'd be fine with it. And make it untradable. Possibly crafted in something also untradable, at i100. Melding it would no doubt cost millions if its anything like melding Vanya is (100k+ materias with 30% chance for your 3rd slot, 25% for the 4th and 15% for the 5th - of course you also pay the fails).

[Sunarie]

If the item drops from new-coil (T6-9) we effectively have a one-week-lockout item (provided you can even go T6 right off, not everyone will). It could also be bought with Soldiery tomes and I'd be fine with it. *snip cause limit*

Either way.. someone suggested earlier (it may have ever been you) a system similar to what we have for melding. Where you can commission someone to make something for you using mats in your inventory. Those mats could certainly be attained either by tome buying or raiding, and wouldn't be tradeable.. so the person getting it would -have- to have done the content. There are solutions that could work, and obviously not everything is perfect.. but there are a few with fingers in their ears that just seem to hate crafting in general.

[Teykos]

Either way.. someone suggested earlier (it may have ever been you) a system similar to what we have for melding. Where you can commission someone to make something for you using mats in your inventory. Those mats could certainly be attained either by tome buying or raiding, and wouldn't be tradeable.. so the person getting it would -have- to have done the content. There are solutions that could work, and obviously not everything is perfect.. but there are a few with fingers in their ears that just seem to hate crafting in general.

I threw in the thought, because I read her suggestion as having untradeable raid-only components, which is worthless if the item is intended for crafting gear and the raider is not also a crafter. That just brings up the pointless argument of "I shouldn't have to raid in order to craft" into this game, which it really does not need.

[Sunarie]

I threw in the thought, because I read her suggestion as having untradeable raid-only components, which is worthless if the item is intended for crafting gear and the raider is not also a crafter. That just brings up the pointless argument of "I shouldn't have to raid in order to craft" into this game, which it really does not need.

Right, or people claiming they have to craft in order to have BiS stuff. Your solution fixes both of those. The untradeable bit is still something I personally wouldn't mind and was more at all the people shouting crafters are greedy and crap. I could care less about making money, I haven't really used my crafting in that way at all.. and I am very often the poorest person in my FC. I do care that I spent the time and energy to get all of it to 50, and it's essentially worthless to my FC now save for crafting food and potions.