Crafting Needs a Place in Endgame Raiding

[Versiroth]

If some PF parties are already excluding you, and will continue to exclude you with or without crafter involvement, then it is not us that is the problem. So why are we being blamed? Curtailing crafting gameplay will not lower pf expectations , or make people not be jerks.

So, because people already do it, we should add in additional reasons? All so crafters can make gil? Sorry, but you making gil isn't worth gating content even more than it already is. What you're suggesting would make the community worse all to make crafters happy. Not a good trade off.