Crafting Needs a Place in Endgame Raiding

[Kallera]

No.

How charitable, you left out that we eat lalafells and skin miqotes. Seriously we are unfairly being burdened with the blame of RMTs. Who mind you, are STILL thriving in your dungeon running theme park!

We asked for enchantments, and got a utter joke through the combination of the materia system and item limits.

We already have minions, and may yet get items related to mounts.

What we want is something more. We were advertised and designed to be our own separate classes, set apart from most other MMO which would have it as a skill number and nothing else. And yet, their economies are thriving, people produce, and look for gear in the AH as well as in the field. Desirable items should be from all aspects of play, not just one.

Having people sit on their gil and promoting only dungeon running to the detriment of All other play will only hurt the game, not the gilsellers, and it will cause all those "there is nothing to do" threads that populate the forums.

[NeoAmon]

How charitable, you left out that we eat lalafells and skin miqotes. Seriously we are unfairly being burdened with the blame of RMTs. Who mind you, are STILL thriving in your dungeon running theme park!

We asked for enchantments, and got a utter joke through the combination of the materia system and item limits.

We already have minions, and may yet get items related to mounts.

What we want is something more. We were advertised and designed to be our own separate classes, set apart from most other MMO which would have it as a skill number and nothing else. And yet, their economies are thriving, people produce, and look for gear in the AH as well as in the field. Desirable items should be from all aspects of play, not just one.

Having people sit on their gil and promoting only dungeon running to the detriment of All other play will only hurt the game, not the gilsellers, and it will cause all those "there is nothing to do" threads that populate the forums.

I would not put it past onichan lala crafter.

In any case, I have not seen any serious movement towards anything but give us best gear in game so we can enslave ffxiv player base. Read this thread and you will see that the majority of crafters want to create the best or second best gear in the game. Effectively killing the game for many of us.

You can't solve a problem by creating a new one. I never for example said crafters are fine the way they are, matter of fact I have thread suggesting a new route to involve them in end game. There are hundred of ways to improve the entire crafting system in ffxiv without killing the end game. This is what I'm trying to convey here, you ask for end game gear and many of us will fight it to the best of our limited abilities. You ask for reasonable involvement which is win win for everyone and you will find me in full supportive mode. Many others would agree with me, we don't hate crafting, we hate greed and selfishness.