The new Allagan set of items needs to have a small customization option.

[Galactimus]

Well that is a major design flaw!

I agree that mixing and matching the Myth and Allagan gear provided some much needed end-game customization for your character. You could raise and lower your accuracy to increase a different stat or give up huge chunks of Parry for Determination when it came to DPS races; which was nice. However, I don't agree that content that can take weeks to master, months to obtain, and gear that has to be lotted for against other players should be the same ilevel as gear you obtain casually with your eyes closed. I think YoshiP's decision was correct to make the Second Coil far more appealing. But I also agree that more customization would be nice.

If High Allagan armor does turn out to be the only i110 gear set I'm sure it'll give you all the accuracy (etc) you need. If not, players will complain a bit and the stats will be changed to address this a week later.

[Mephistopheles]

If 'best gear' means 'highest iLevel' then you have an odd idea of what 'best' means. If you've ever played even one Monster Hunter game then you'd know that 'best' and 'highest level' sometimes don't coincide. The armor in this game seems to fall in with this mentality in about the same frequency as Monster Hunter. Take the best hand piece for White Mage (hint: it's Darklight).

How does 8 det beat 6 mnd? To put you in your place, the Allagan gloves are miles better than DL. Also, I was a bit over the top but I still think an MMORPG should have multiple end game routes

[Gilraen]

How does 8 det beat 6 mnd? To put you in your place, the Allagan gloves are miles better than DL. Also, I was a bit over the top but I still think an MMORPG should have multiple end game routes

Not sure how but I see more White Mages wearing them with their Allagan head and body and Myth legs and feet than not. Guess they did the math like I did to stack specific stats. But that's the name of the game, stacking stats, not iLevel. Yes, I know I'm not wearing Allagan on my White Mage, haven't run Coil yet.

[Mephistopheles]

It's around 4 or 5 det to equal 1 main stat so the gloves would need way more det that they give. It just sounds like all the people who have met haven't got the gloves as a drop yet.

[NeoAmon]

Not sure how but I see more White Mages wearing them with their Allagan head and body and Myth legs and feet than not. Guess they did the math like I did to stack specific stats. Yes, I know I'm not wearing Allagan on my White Mage, haven't run Coil yet.

Math? What math?

At minimum 1 Mind=5 DET, So 6 Mind=30 DET. I don't know what math you did but it is for sure not the standard universally accepted math.

[Musashidon]

Q13: Will the item level be the same for equipment obtained from the Second Binding Coil of Bahamut and the equipment you can obtain with Allagan tomestones of soldiery?

A13: The item levels will not be necessarily be the same.

remember that is what was offically said. (not saying allagan won't be better just saying this is what offcially was said)


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Updates/page2

question 13

so they might be around the same ilvl but maybe better stats? or maybe something else?

[Allyrion]

I agree with Neo and Galactimus.
Yes to having higher item level gear for things that take more effort.
No to having limited customization as a result.

The Extreme Primals were a good 90 alternatives. We know Levi drops a weapon but King Moogle could drop some other higher level pieces.
Honestly, that's still pretty limited though. I don't mind having differents routes for gear once they take roughly equivalent time and effort.
Neo has some good options like customizing the coil set.

I'm wondering if it's really too hard to have more than one armor piece in coil that fits a job. For example, having more than one casting chest drop or a Melee chest that fits both drg and monk along with their personal set.
That's obviously more for the future though, since this patch is already decided.

[chococo]

If soldiery gear is lower tier there isn't any reason to gate it with a weekly cap. People will need to clear BCoB to get the highest tier anyway.

[NeoAmon]

Guys please stick to the topic . Only two or three posts are actually responding to the OP directly without branching out.

[Naunet]

Nay he stated the entire set will be at a higher Ilvl. The reason was to motivate players to clear the second coil.

That's really quite a silly decision and makes gearing up even more thoughtless. At least when the tomestone gear and Allagan gear were the same ilvl, you had some options when it came to secondary stats.

Nah it is not. You can't just have the best gear in the game handed to everyone freely. As for the mixing and matching, this thread aims to have a new customization option .

No gear was handed to anyone freely. It takes time to grind up mythology tomestones, and depending on your job, a lot of the Allagan stuff was better than the myth stuff because of the secondary stats. Having the tomestone gear on par base stat-wise with Allagan gear gave a much needed reprieve in case RNG was unfriendly. With how it's going to be in 2.2, it's entirely possible that someone could never get a single piece of ilvl 110 Allagan gear, even if they regularly run the second Coil. That's just not right.