Why are they nerfing content already?

[Versiroth]

I don't see why people complain about AK's gnats anyway. When's the last time anyone actually killed them? The tank grabs them, and everyone just DPS's the wall. Heck, get a group of I80+ people and you'll likely never even see the gnats you kill it so fast.

[Versiroth]

I'd also like to say that people that have BC 1-5 and the Extreme Primals on farm are in large part to blame for these nerfs. You complain about them nerfing the content so causal people can participate more and yet when was the last time you let one of these people into your group? Almost every single Turn 4, 5 and Ex Primals PF group I see demand experience and threaten to kick if people make any mistakes. If people weren't so exclusive with this content, then maybe SE could have left it alone. As is, these buffs will give these excluded people a way to start groups of their own without having to beg you to include them. And sure, they can make learning groups now, but in my experience, those groups never last long. I've been further in titan Ex in a DF group than I have in PF learning groups.

Anyway, maybe next time a player sends you a tell saying "Hey, I watched a video, but I've never done this before", you'll think twice about just scoffing and not responding. Then again, you probably won't.

[Gormogon]

2.1 is old and busted.
2.2 is new hotness.

Screw Costa del Sol I wanna go to Doma please.

[File2ish]

I don't see why people complain about AK's gnats anyway. When's the last time anyone actually killed them?

Did AK yesterday for my relic on my ilvl 72 PLD. The DF group I got consisted of a SMN in fairly good gear (at the very least had 3 ilvl 90 AF1.5 pieces, I never checked his equips so can't say about accessories), a DRG in ilvl 55 WP and AK drops, and a WHM in similar ilvl gear as the DRG. Killed the adds because of the lack of DPS, not everyone is Ilvl65+ to just burn the boss.

[Vahlnir]

Did AK yesterday for my relic on my ilvl 72 PLD. The DF group I got consisted of a SMN in fairly good gear (at the very least had 3 ilvl 90 AF1.5 pieces, I never checked his equips so can't say about accessories), a DRG in ilvl 55 WP and AK drops, and a WHM in similar ilvl gear as the DRG. Killed the adds because of the lack of DPS, not everyone is Ilvl65+ to just burn the boss.

This is true, but it doesn't really depend solely on item level. The group composition and competence are a greater factor in this case. Killing the gnats wasn't a huge hassle to start, but if it helps keep the focus on the wall by getting rid of them entirely I'm all for it. Some people tend to tunnel vision their way through content as it is so this should make things a bit easier all around.

[Blackcanary]

hmm actually when patch 2.2 come out, every thing we are doing now and since 2.1 will be outdated. Just take a look @ stuff from 2.0 to 2.1. those things are tottaly outdated. i havent done a single AK, WP or Castrum when 2.1 came out. so yeah everything that we have done right now will be outdated for most of the pepeol.

Yoshi will always nerf old stuff so new players or Bad players can reach the new content, be happy and keep putting money in SE Pocket.
you better get used to it, because every patch it will be the same cycle over and over.

I don't understand why can't bad players just learn how to play better. Instead of things being handed to you on a plate or having good players carry you. I hope things change after the First EXP pack.

[Versiroth]

Did AK yesterday for my relic on my ilvl 72 PLD. The DF group I got consisted of a SMN in fairly good gear (at the very least had 3 ilvl 90 AF1.5 pieces, I never checked his equips so can't say about accessories), a DRG in ilvl 55 WP and AK drops, and a WHM in similar ilvl gear as the DRG. Killed the adds because of the lack of DPS, not everyone is Ilvl65+ to just burn the boss.

So, due to lack of DPS, you had the DPS stop DPSing the boss so they could instead DPS adds? That doesn't really make a lot of sense. As long as the tank can grab and hold aggro and the healer can keep him alive, there's zero reason to ever ask the DPS to kill those adds. It's a waste of time and could cause you to lose due to the boss closing in before the DPS can get him down.

[Ricky]

Because people are bad enough to still be stuck on it

[Arkghyom]

The first expansion isn't even out yet. There's no point in doing challenging content when they nerf it before it's completely outdated.

Really, really bad sign for the direction the game is going to take imo.

It's not surprising.

[shadowrell_d-_-b]

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"I DONT WANT NEW/BAD/UNDERGEARED PLAYERS IN MY GROUPS AND I DONT WANT TO TRY TO HELP THEM CUZ IM TO LEETZ FOR THAT AND I DONT WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO BEAT OLD CONTENT I WILL NEVER EVEN PLAY AGAIN UNLESS I RANDOM ROULETTE OR HELP A NEWBIE FC MATE CLEAR CUZ I HAD TO DO IT THE HARD WAY AND I DONT WANT THEM TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE GEAR/CONTENT I HAVE ACCESS TO CUZ THEY DIDNT LEARN NOTHING FROM EASY MODE AND I DONT WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THEIR OWN GROUPS OF PLAYERS AND BEAT ON EASY MODE CUZ IT WOULD UNDERMINE ALL THE HARD WORK ME AND MY OTHER FELLOW LEETZ PUT IN TO LEARN IT WHEN IT WAS HARDER AND I REALIZE THIS IS A CASUAL GAME BUT MY 5% DESERVE TO BE GODS AMOUNG THE MASSES OF CASUALS CUZ WE ARE COOL LIKE THAT SO DONT NERF THE OLD STUFF I WILL NEVER PLAY PLEASE CUZ I WANNA FEEL COOL FOR A BIT LONGER AT LEAST UNTIL THE NEXT EXPANSION"

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