Why are they nerfing content already?

[Noahlimits]

Bad players?! Bad players?! Are you serious about this, there isnt Bad Players there are good players not willing to work with people with gear lower level than them. Your so called good players don't work with people they feel are beneath them. The Bad Players are the ones who quit a dungeon because they see gear the other players are wearing are beneath them, that quit dungeons after the first or second fail instead of trying to work something out. Bad Players are the high level players not willing to work with people, not willingly to give someone with an ilvl lower than 80 a chance.

And here I thought bad players were the ones who fail to learn new mechanics or get out of the bad. TIL

[Morticous]

blahblah.

There are also bad players who don't know how to play their job and who clearly skated 1-50. And the game doesn't force them to learn how to play.. so whether they are bad because they don't wan to learn.. bad because they cant learn... or bad because they have bad attitudes.. people who suck at the game can also be considered bad players.. People should have to learn how to play the game before progressing and this game doesn't hardly teach you how to do that at all....

[Galactimus]

Really, really bad sign for the direction the game is going to take imo.

Ten topics on this so I'll just hit you with a religious quote from some random prophet:

All of the echo buffs can be completely ignored if you desire them to be. You don't have to play with them activated. You don't have to join groups that want to use them. You can complete ALL echo content at its original difficulty anytime you want. This is not a "NERF" its an "OPTION." You can complete it with or without the ECHO. Make a non-echo Coil party to experience the original difficulty; the echo isn't stopping you from doing so.

[PArcher]

I'm almost willing to bet the OP will be spamming Coil2 for gear and the new dungeons for tomes and overgear the old content (which is nerfing it in its own way)

[Sessurea]

They refreshing endgame....making old content still meaningful ( myth tomes ) and giving us a ton of new content. I could cry for this to have happened to any of my previous mmos....

[Stanelis]

The first expansion isn't even out yet. There's no point in doing challenging content when they nerf it before it's completely outdated.

Really, really bad sign for the direction the game is going to take imo.

I can't understand either, especially when there is so few high level raids and dungeons encounter.

I could cry for this to have happened to any of my previous mmos....

You could just have played wow.

[LordSliver]

Its to help new players get to the newer stuff faster, if you already completed it why are you complaining than. You are not be affected, you are just pissed because you already surpassed the stuff. Don't you want new players to get to where you are at with short time, what if your real life friends decided to play the game all of sudden. I am sure you would want them to catch up to where you are at as fast as they could and that is what this does.

Nerf isn't really a nerf but its a gate way for new players to catch up. They already explained how to get the buffs not to be apply if you really dont want to see the buffs. Also the buffs are even lower for the more recent content like Primal EXs

[Davionx]

Buys casual game.
Looks for challenging content.

[NotTheNameIWanted]

Buys casual game.
Looks for challenging content.

It's that there isn't a lot of content right now, so speeding people through what's already there doesn't make sense. I'd rather level an alt through content that's as challenging as it ever was than speed through it because things have been nerfed.

And I realize you can turn it off, but it's like the buff that happened for ICC during Wrath of the Lich King. Maybe .1% of people turned it off once it was made available. Once it's there, it's there.

[Dyvid]

It's that there isn't a lot of content right now, so speeding people through what's already there doesn't make sense. I'd rather level an alt through content that's as challenging as it ever was than speed through it because things have been nerfed.

And I realize you can turn it off, but it's like the buff that happened for ICC during Wrath of the Lich King. Maybe .1% of people turned it off once it was made available. Once it's there, it's there.

So I notice you just bought the game.... how's Titan HM coming along using duty finder?

The echo buff is better than I expected because it not an auto 50% buff at first. In fact you'll start the battle with no buff and original challenge, and slow get stronger based on how many wipes. This is a great compromise instead of the normal across the board content nerf.