I hate the idea of Echo Buff. It should be part of some easy server not whole game.

[Nutz]

Can you explain how you keep taking that as if it's without the echo buff.

It's the echo buff. The echo for Coil isn't going to be immediate or after x tries of failing the instance. It's X tries and failing for weeks.

I thought initially that it was going to be like that also, but I suppose that would be difficult to manage with the DF. All the same it's removable and takes effect in stages over the next 2 months.