Regarding yet again... more nerfs.

[shadowrell_d-_-b]

why exactly should advanced players (having cleared coil several times, downed each EX primal and leveled every class you wanted to 50) care about "OLD" content being nerfed?
to protect my elitist position? wouldn't want the newbies catching up to fast eh?

any content worth doing for experienced players will have plenty enough challenge in 2.2 let those trying to play catch up have their fun! as for the whiner's saying "but they wont learn how to play if its nerfed" or "its not fair to those that had to do it the hard way" get off your high horse this is a casual MMO if you did anything the hard way that was YOUR choice to be the first to get X item's.

stupid thread

[ExKage]

He's already answered that the extreme primals are going to be included in the main story in some way or another. As such based on that, I assume that sooner or later there will be buffs or nerfs when newer content is released that will get people more able to clear.

[Seniade]

He's following the "standard" MMORPG model (that only 1 mainstream MMO actually utilizes and 1 other MMO no one really cares about) which is to nerf content after every update and make your previous accomplishment meaningless.

What accomplishments? Maybe the 1st time you did AK, you were in gear less than what dropped in it, but I can't think of the last time that I've been there and the group struggled with it. They're nerfing things now that there are higher challenges. Worry about those rather than resting on your laurels.

[razzgrizz3]

my guess they are doing this because statistics. they looked at them and saw that a mere 5% (if that) clear/play coil and extremes. remember this stuff costs them money and a lot of man hours to develop/tune so a lot of content is being wasted right there.
this game is kept afloat not by people like you aka the 5%.
its simple math and logic really

[Alwryn]

Nerfing old content is good, everyone should be able to see previous content. It doesn't hurt me either. All of those old contents they're "nerfing" all has outdated gear now anyway, who cares.

What, new people may catch up? Well, let me tell you a story. I had one of the first Heavy Allagan chests on my server way back when people just started doing coil and no one had any coil gear, wasn't long before everyone caught up. I remember when noone had Allagan weapons and I had two, but people caught up. People will always catch up. Why make it that much harder and more frustrating for new players?

Point is, accomplishments don't go away, they just become fond memories.

[Gucci_Charms]

Instead of Echo buff stacks, they should just add a Vote Instant Win button via Duty Finder menu. If the majority of votes win, the trial/dungeon is instantly won and everyone gets a loot piece Yay!!

On a serious note though, the existing dungeons and extreme primals aren't even hard at all. Make a learning party, bring LS/FC members or friends (if you have any), then you're set to eventually completing them over time. On my server, most people I have run into already have some primal weapons. Whether or not they paid for their run, however, is an entirely different story.

Bravo SE for catering to all lazy self-entitled players and removing any real form of challenge this game offers. Like some people have said in previous threads, why bother trying to learn a hard instance if it'll be 10x easier by next patch? Zzzzz

[Ferocious]

^ Because those lazy self-entitled players are forgetting it's a video game, it's okay to die a few times. They just want to kill, not be killed. Must be very entertaining to feel like a superhero in dungeons.

[Elazu]

How dare they nerf content nobody does anymore anyway.

[Mychael]

why exactly should advanced players (having cleared coil several times, downed each EX primal and leveled every class you wanted to 50) care about "OLD" content being nerfed?
to protect my elitist position? wouldn't want the newbies catching up to fast eh?

any content worth doing for experienced players will have plenty enough challenge in 2.2 let those trying to play catch up have their fun! as for the whiner's saying "but they wont learn how to play if its nerfed" or "its not fair to those that had to do it the hard way" get off your high horse this is a casual MMO if you did anything the hard way that was YOUR choice to be the first to get X item's.

You said it: "to[o] fast." This content isn't that old. I haven't been back long enough to beat all three Ex primals, and frankly I don't want them to be any easier than the original players' attempts. If anything, I feel insulted that SE thinks I want the easymode since I wasn't here when they were originally released. It doesn't make me a lesser player, just a player whose job places him in areas without high-speed internet.

I'm totally okay with phasing out old content, but I think they needed to wait longer than a single (major) update.

[Alwryn]

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The hardest things about extreme modes were getting the mechanics down. Wicked wheel is still going to hit for the same damage. Titan will still be able to knock you off the edge just the same as ever. Twintania will still Death Sentence combo and one shot unmitigated tanks. Her divebombs will still knock you into a wall.

The fights will go FASTER. That does not mean they will be EASIER.

You still have to learn and know the mechanics to win.

I should just put this as my signature, since I say it so much but...Calm down chicken little, sky ain't falling.