Regarding yet again... more nerfs.

[Prototype909]

I can understand the "People should get to experience the content" argument, but Extreme Mode primals came out just last content update, if anything they should've been left alone. I don't care about the "Special Snowflake" PoV that people seem to think exists, but I think people forget that when content gets nerfed you're also taking away the ability of old players to revisit difficult content - not just giving new players or (bad) players the chance to beat it. If they couldn't beat Titan EX what makes them any more likely to beat Leviathan EX? Why is the babying necessary if it comes at the expense of limiting older player's experiences?

I also hate to sound elitist but this just contributes to the overall problem of people being impatient or hostile in higher level instances due to the perception that people who routinely fail were carried through fights they had no business beating and or undeservedly obtained their gear (Though a lot of that can be from CT or just the concept of token loot to begin with). I'm not saying it's fair that that sort of prejudice exists, but it does add another layer of suspicion and skepticism that doesn't do much to help the game's community.

[BloodPact]

I can understand the "People should get to experience the content" argument, but Extreme Mode primals came out just last content update, if anything they should've been left alone. I don't care about the "Special Snowflake" PoV that people seem to think exists, but I think people forget that when content gets nerfed you're also taking away the ability of old players to revisit difficult content - not just giving new players or (bad) players the chance to beat it. If they couldn't beat Titan EX what makes them any more likely to beat Leviathan EX? Why is the babying necessary if it comes at the expense of limiting older player's experiences.

None of the extreme primals or The Binding Coil of Bahamut are getting nerfed specifically for this reason. So people who like challenging stuff can still have the original challenge. Only Pharos Sirius and Amdapor Keep are being adjusted. The players themselves are getting the boost for this content, a boost which is optional and can be turned of just like any other buff for those who do not wish to use it.

[Galactimus]

I think people forget that when content gets nerfed you're also taking away the ability of old players to revisit difficult content - not just giving new players or (bad) players the chance to beat it. If they couldn't beat Titan EX what makes them any more likely to beat Leviathan EX? Why is the babying necessary if it comes at the expense of limiting older player's experiences.

The echo buff is NOT taking that experience away. You can still clear the content as much as you want in its original difficulty. The echo is only applied if you die after three minutes of constant fighting. And the Coil echo can be removed. People still have to learn the mechanics. The echo buff isn't going to stop players from being knocked off the edge from Landslides or cleaving the party with Divebombs.

[BloodPact]

The echo buff is NOT taking that experience away. You can still clear the content as much as you want in its original difficulty. The echo is only applied if you die after three minutes of constant fighting. And the Coil echo can be removed. People still have to learn the mechanics. The echo buff isn't going to stop players from being knocked off the edge from Landslides or cleaving the party with Divebombs.

Expanding on what Galactimus said above. I hope everyone realizes that pre-2.2 content for endgamers in getting "nerfed" anyways because once you get ilvl100+ gear Titan, Garuda, Ifrit and Coils 1-5 are just going to be rollface for the people who already complete those on a regular basis. You'd have to get your entire party to downgrade to Darklight and rerun Coils 1-5 (for example) to get the experience you all want, and I'm pretty sure none of the complainers are doing that now anyways. <.<