The new Ilvl

[horaiyo]

Coil gear being higher would be fine if it werent for being at the mercy of BOTH RNG and lockouts

28 clears I think and we still have never seen the tank necklace from turn 1, or the striking gloves from turn 2

Yup, I'm somewhere around 6 months waiting on casting boots.

[GhaleonM]

The RNG with gear dropping is nothing new to MMOs. Why are people acting like this is such a travesty, this is the life of raiding. Lockouts and random gear dropping and hoping your piece drops is a part of raiding, always has been always will be. At no point did SE EVER say they were planning on doing something different in this regard.

Maybe your gear will drop fast maybe it won't, but you'll always have something to strive for so either you will keep raiding or quit. If you quit...peace out!

[Kaaylryn]

I do like the gear being gradual increases for difficulty of content. Best gear should be from Coil. However, if they homogenize gear again, say caster gear: ss + det, or ss + crit, may not be good for both summoner and black mage per se. Or whm and sch, SS vs crit, det vs piety, etc. I don't see this having a good ending unless they drop tokens for specific class gear. Unless they homogenize the need for specific stats for specified spells, I think this may be a problem.
As it is now, BIS scholar is almost all Myth tome gear. I don't see how this will be effective for both healing classes or both casting classes. I am sure other dps or even tank gear will have the same concerns. Maybe there is something I am missing?

[Tranquil]

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I don't see how this will be effective for both healing classes or both casting classes. I am sure other dps or even tank gear will have the same concerns. Maybe there is something I am missing?

All of your concerns are completely valid and I can sympathize with you. However, if they are going to homogenize the gear, it just means that we will have less stat synergy for some classes. People are still going to go for the highest ilvl gear to max out their main stat.

Yoshi did mention something about being able to customize your weapon's stats in the context of future gearing, but that won't be applying to coil drops etc., though.

[Finuve]

The RNG with gear dropping is nothing new to MMOs. Why are people acting like this is such a travesty, this is the life of raiding. Lockouts and random gear dropping and hoping your piece drops is a part of raiding, always has been always will be. At no point did SE EVER say they were planning on doing something different in this regard.

Maybe your gear will drop fast maybe it won't, but you'll always have something to strive for so either you will keep raiding or quit. If you quit...peace out!

this is extremely stupid and im not sure why every game doing something this stupid means its ok that this one does it

it wouldnt be quite as bad if everything was obsolete every 6 months

[Morgan_Leah]

The RNG with gear dropping is nothing new to MMOs. Why are people acting like this is such a travesty, this is the life of raiding. Lockouts and random gear dropping and hoping your piece drops is a part of raiding, always has been always will be. At no point did SE EVER say they were planning on doing something different in this regard.

Maybe your gear will drop fast maybe it won't, but you'll always have something to strive for so either you will keep raiding or quit. If you quit...peace out!

You do realize that just because companies are doing something doesn't make it ok?

Wow got rid of the rng system in favor of valor points and tokens for a reason. Trying to extend raid content with a rng system is terrible because people start to lose interest over time when they never get their gear. It's pointless to keep raiding when every week all you see is the same shit over and over. Groups/player progression get stalled due to this.

[Gumbercules]

You do realize that just because companies are doing something doesn't make it ok?

Wow got rid of the rng system in favor of valor points and tokens for a reason. Trying to extend raid content with a rng system is terrible because people start to lose interest over time when they never get their gear. It's pointless to keep raiding when every week all you see is the same shit over and over. Groups/player progression get stalled due to this.

Well, coil is ff 14s highest tier similar to how heroic (mythic in WoD) is wows highest lvl tier, and last i checked you cant get heroic ilvl gear in wow from tokens at all >.>
There could be systems put into place of course though, like random "tokens" to upgrade the soldiery to ilvl 110 (or the AF2? still unclear on how those are gonna work out)
Overall i agree with the direction though, maybe now they could even opt to make "more drops" in coil since it doesn't have the mythos counterparts.