The new Ilvl

[HeavensHell]

I really wish they would keep iLvl in line with actual player level, it just seems rather ridiculous now, having something that much further ahead of the player level...

Guess you have not played another mmorpg with item levels, item levels are meant as a bridge to connect higher content with the higher the item level the higher the attributes and weapon damage roll= the higher content your potentially able to due item level lockouts and gear check fights which so far 14 has been very generous with unlike other mmorpgs.

[Loony_BoB]

Guess you have not played another mmorpg with item levels, item levels are meant as a bridge to connect higher content with the higher the item level the higher the attributes and weapon damage roll= the higher content your potentially able to due item level lockouts and gear check fights which so far 14 has been very generous with unlike other mmorpgs.

It's not about the other MMORPG, though, it's about what I want for this game.

[Penguinmayhem]

The reason they put out higher level items rather than upping the PC level cap is because progressively upping the level cap too regularly leads to situations like WoW where they are almost technologically incapable of programming a boss with enough HP to be a challenge to players with stats in the seven figures.

[NeoAmon]

Ilvl is just an ID. They would have called it something else like tier 3 for example. Don't get attached too much to the numbers as the stat increase is not huge even going from i90 to i110.

[TeganLaron]

I may be wrong but I didn't see them say anywhere that new tome gear would be weaker than new coil gear. When asked a question if they would be the same level he said "not necessarily" which I just took to mean that again weapons will be 5 levels higher.

[Zumi]

I like that raiding gets the highest ilevel of gear now. It shows you accomplished the hardest content and didn't just farm a bunch of easy 4 man dungeons.

[Yumi_umi]

Yo no 1 will probably clear coil
T6-9 in the first few weeks.
Took BG quite a while before t5 clear.
So assuming most ppl watch strat videos and need to gear up, i assume t9 weekly loot will go to waste for about a solid month or so.
People can't possibly expect to face roll it like they did with ex primals.
But prepare urself for the PF ilvl requirements for coil XD
Ilvl100+ only plz
Haha it will be fun to see PF get filled with coil T1-9
New ilvl galoreeeeeee!

[Morgan_Leah]

I agree with you Crater.

I just cleared coil today for the last time before the patch and I finally just got the choker of fending. After clearing caduecus for the first time in September and never missing a kill after that. I'm fine with the ilevel difference between the allagan and tome gear, however, they need to address the fact that the rng system is terrible. 10 clears of twin and zero axes or tank helms either. 3 smn/2sch and 1 of everything else but no axe or blm weapon.

We're just going to have to wait and see how turns 6-9 work. If it's the same garbage as 1-5 with 9-10 items in a single chest and bosses only drop 2 chests then the devs need to address this issue.

[GhaleonM]

Again the process for raiding for the best gear is nothing new to MMOs. The lockout on raids zones is nothing new to MMOs. And guess what it works and it's a pretty fair system. So RNG isn't on your side...too bad guess what though you'll either 1. Keep raiding or 2. Quit the game. If you're a raider though, you will more than likely just continue to raid because you understand how this whole ordeal goes. Do I think it would be better if there was more than 1 single zone to raid so you had more options to try to obtain gear...of course I do. Most MMOs have 2 maybe even 3 zones that drop gear so you have plenty of opportunity to get gear for your toon, but this game only has one so just deal with it. This game has an issue with horizontal gear progression and they need to work on it, and they will, but it won't be by removing raid zone lockouts or giving you Coil level gear from a vendor...looks like they are done with that crap now.

People in this thread talking like 'OMG I cannot believe this game has lockouts and raiding is the only way to get the top iLVL of gear'...what MMOs have you been playing in the last 10 years...the majority of them follow this type of system more or less. I love it, regardless if my RNG is bad (and my RNG is this game is plenty bad but oh well).

And on a side note if you're not doing Coil you have no need for Coil level gear...to do what run instances...that's why there will be crafted and Tome gear for those purposes. Not everyone is entitled to have the best of everything...you want the highest level of gear then you should raid to get it plain and simple. Why people feel they should have access to 'everything' because they pay the same fee as everyone else is so ridiculous. It's like me complaining that I don't have max level crafters, but yet I don't want to craft. If you don't want to raid Coil you shouldn't be able to have Coil level gear.

[WiseWolfHolo]

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So why would I want to waste time and money to do exactly what I do now, clear coil and sit around? With no way to progress other than RNG it is bad and is just a better idea to unsub til next update and catch back up in a couple days. SE thinks that this will make players do coil, ha, this will just make players either as you said unsub or go for it, but I bet even less will go for it now.Some players either do or do not do coil for many reasons, such as do not have the time, do not have the patience for most PUGS, do not want to join a static and would rather lone wolf it, but for whatever reason changing an ilvl that forces BiS instead of mix and match BiS is just awful. Players got a full benefit of doing coil to get a BiS combo, sure the dps increase may have been slight, but look you got something no one else really has. Why do we need to change that way now? Besides if they find their luck bad they will not stick with it for long. I for one, do not want to pay for a game that I feel no sort of progression based on a weekly lockout lottery system, but as you said if there were other raids that drop the same ilvl no big deal but with a 1 stop shop, yeah no ty.