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    Meh if that's the case that is a little too linear, people keep refering to myth gear as the "casual set" but it actually brings much more than that to the game. Having only one choice of gear per tier is bad, regardless the way you're gonna get it, you just can't min/max or even put a little thought on your stats if there's only one top tier set.
    Also RNG can be pretty harsh, my static started clearing coil pretty early and yet I saw my first bard's loot only after 2.1 and as of today we've never seen mage's body, legs or head dropping... I wouldn't really say that's rewarding hardcore players over anyone.

    At least I hope they're being more careful with itemization, try to equip a full aiming set now and watch your accuracy go nuts <.<'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    Meh if that's the case that is a little too linear, people keep refering to myth gear as the "casual set" but it actually brings much more than that to the game.'
    another reason why CT2 armor will be equivalent to Allagan2.
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    if they put CT 2 in DF then most likely CT2 will drop i100. tome item prolly be i 110, to give some horizon progression aside from allagan set.
    I dont think they will give CT 2 i110, since CT will be on DF and T6-9 is not on DF.
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    So to make sure that the new crafting recipes people wanted don't somehow become useful compared to dungeon drops, they've added multiple extra tiers of dungeon drop items to completely outclass them?

    Thanks. Thanks a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguinmayhem View Post
    So to make sure that the new crafting recipes people wanted don't somehow become useful compared to dungeon drops, they've added multiple extra tiers of dungeon drop items to completely outclass them?

    Thanks. Thanks a lot.
    Well, SE have said many times before that they intend to always have the best dungeon/raid drops be superior to the best crafted options.

    I think there's something different going on with the soldiery tome gear though. Yoshida's answer was kind of strange that the soldiery tome gear and allagan 2 gear won't necessarily be the same ilvl. To me it's either the same, higher, or lower. Not necessarily equal seems to imply that there are multiple sets with different ilvls, upgrade paths such that they start out different but end up the same, or pieces within the same set have different ilvls than each other.
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    I reckon the next part of CT Gear should be ilvl95-100, Soldiery Tome Gear should be ilvl110 and ofcourse 2nd Coil Gear should be the full ilvl115 with the possibility of a T9 Weapon drop being ilvl120

    Zodiak Relic should also be ilvl115 with the possibility of upgrading like going from Base -> Zenith.
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    im kinda glad theyre making coil gear higher than soldiery. At least it's a way of showing what you've been able to accomplish and/or your skill level at that period of time in regards to the latest turns in coil.

    but maaaan man....dat r..n..g. ive been coiling as blm since october. i have NEVER seen the caster chest drop.....like i've never even had the chance to roll need on it. -.-

    I wonder how hard t6 will be in full i90 or i90 with a i95 weap..or i90 with i100 levi weap.

    lastly..i really wanna see what mnk tome gear looks like. I really hope it looks like the concept art. xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyasha View Post
    but maaaan man....dat r..n..g. ive been coiling as blm since october. i have NEVER seen the caster chest drop.....like i've never even had the chance to roll need on it. -.-
    Amen. I've been watching out for the healing gloves and dragoon pants/belt and they just won't drop for us. Plenty of accessories for every class, but never any actual gear. Thankfully with the patch we'll be able to farm for them though. D:<

    I can't even imagine how brutal the 6-9 rng will be. I feel like its bad enough when I hear about T5 tripple weapon drops 3 weeks in a row, you know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Yeah that ^
    Cool signature, btw!
    Not you, Oscillate_Wildly.
    Not you.

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    I agree that coil should have a valor points style system for gear but also that it should be higher than tome gear, which it seems to be so I'm pretty happy. I have gone 4-5 months without getting caster pants, so I know the RNG pain as much as anyone else but even I think it's absurd that you can get raid level gear without even raiding and I'm glad they might be making this change. It should never be possible to outgear the hardest content without even doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    I agree that coil should have a valor points style system for gear but also that it should be higher than tome gear, which it seems to be so I'm pretty happy. I have gone 4-5 months without getting caster pants, so I know the RNG pain as much as anyone else but even I think it's absurd that you can get raid level gear without even raiding and I'm glad they might be making this change. It should never be possible to outgear the hardest content without even doing it.

    That's how i was with caster body. Until the day I said, "IT WILL DROP TODAY I HAVE PROCLAIMED IT!" and it dropped

    I'm okay with coil gear being higher than tome gear, and it only makes sense. I assume future CT, since it will be capable of being made into premade, will be i105/110 to offset this. Which is better than what it is now.
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