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I don't see how this will be effective for both healing classes or both casting classes. I am sure other dps or even tank gear will have the same concerns. Maybe there is something I am missing?

All of your concerns are completely valid and I can sympathize with you. However, if they are going to homogenize the gear, it just means that we will have less stat synergy for some classes. People are still going to go for the highest ilvl gear to max out their main stat.

Yoshi did mention something about being able to customize your weapon's stats in the context of future gearing, but that won't be applying to coil drops etc., though.

[Finuve]

The RNG with gear dropping is nothing new to MMOs. Why are people acting like this is such a travesty, this is the life of raiding. Lockouts and random gear dropping and hoping your piece drops is a part of raiding, always has been always will be. At no point did SE EVER say they were planning on doing something different in this regard.

Maybe your gear will drop fast maybe it won't, but you'll always have something to strive for so either you will keep raiding or quit. If you quit...peace out!

this is extremely stupid and im not sure why every game doing something this stupid means its ok that this one does it

it wouldnt be quite as bad if everything was obsolete every 6 months

[Morgan_Leah]

The RNG with gear dropping is nothing new to MMOs. Why are people acting like this is such a travesty, this is the life of raiding. Lockouts and random gear dropping and hoping your piece drops is a part of raiding, always has been always will be. At no point did SE EVER say they were planning on doing something different in this regard.

Maybe your gear will drop fast maybe it won't, but you'll always have something to strive for so either you will keep raiding or quit. If you quit...peace out!

You do realize that just because companies are doing something doesn't make it ok?

Wow got rid of the rng system in favor of valor points and tokens for a reason. Trying to extend raid content with a rng system is terrible because people start to lose interest over time when they never get their gear. It's pointless to keep raiding when every week all you see is the same shit over and over. Groups/player progression get stalled due to this.

[Gumbercules]

You do realize that just because companies are doing something doesn't make it ok?

Wow got rid of the rng system in favor of valor points and tokens for a reason. Trying to extend raid content with a rng system is terrible because people start to lose interest over time when they never get their gear. It's pointless to keep raiding when every week all you see is the same shit over and over. Groups/player progression get stalled due to this.

Well, coil is ff 14s highest tier similar to how heroic (mythic in WoD) is wows highest lvl tier, and last i checked you cant get heroic ilvl gear in wow from tokens at all >.>
There could be systems put into place of course though, like random "tokens" to upgrade the soldiery to ilvl 110 (or the AF2? still unclear on how those are gonna work out)
Overall i agree with the direction though, maybe now they could even opt to make "more drops" in coil since it doesn't have the mythos counterparts.

[Doki]

Given that they have made a point of saying that very few people will upgrade before 2.25 I think it's safe to assume that you'll need an upgrade item from new coil turns, or the new EX primal fights (assuming they are going to be THAT punishing)

[Royze]

That Lala PLD has over 8000 HP. WAR will probably sit easy @ over 10k HP in the same gear.

[SendohJin]

they are totally doing Allagan2 i110, Soldiery i100 so that people will actually look forward to to a weekly i110 piece from a spammable CT2 in June.

[Lemon8or]

they are totally doing Allagan2 i110, Soldiery i100 so that people will actually look forward to to a weekly i110 piece from a spammable CT2 in June.

CT2 might be i100 or i105 seeing how it's below allagan.

[Royze]

they are totally doing Allagan2 i110, Soldiery i100 so that people will actually look forward to to a weekly i110 piece from a spammable CT2 in June.

Not disagreeing. It is possible. They made a mess of CT/Coil/Mythology gear, and making CT2 drops rarer and more valuable than Soldiery gear would be a step in the right direction.


But at the same time, I find it hard to believe SE will condemn their casual fan base into wearing sub-par gear than other types of players.

The entire point of Mythology was to allow casual players to remain relevant in the game without having to do coil.

Now they're turning around and making Coil 2 gear superior to Soldiery (new tomes) gear, which will already upset the casuals. Making CT drop gear that is superior to soldiery gear will probably make them flip their top. Especially since in 2.25 or 2.3 they are apparently allowing 24 man pre-made alliances. Meaning the rise of FC large man content, and the exclusion of the weaker more casual players.

So in effect, making CT2 gear superior to soldiery gear benefits the less casual of us, who are already in groups and farming t1-t5.
We will have access to soldiery, coil, extremes as well as CT2 gear while casuals will most likely only be able to access soldiery regularly and CT2 sometimes (look at DF Extremes as a case example of how good casuals do in DF lol)

In short, I'm all for it. Let the gap between whiners and people who are willing to work increase. Filthy casuals had it coming.

[SendohJin]

CT2 might be i100 or i105 seeing how it's below allagan.

nothing says CT2 gear has to be below Allagan2.

Especially since in 2.25 or 2.3 they are apparently allowing 24 man pre-made alliances. Meaning the rise of FC large man content, and the exclusion of the weaker more casual players.

that change has no bearing on the difficulty of CT2, that just means CT2 with pre-made 24s have 0 chance to wipe and you can potentially "speed run" it whatever that means. your correlation that just because you CAN enter means the difficulty automatically rises to the point where most people who don't enter that way will find it hard to complete is unfounded.