Separate point allocation for smn and sch[pls][pls respond]

[MathewZilla]

pls there is no reason for this ; -;

[Hiroradius]

Yes there is, Summoner is a dps class, and Scholar is a Healing class. They need different gear, attributes, and everything.

So you main as one.. Summoner or Scholar, you don't main as both.

What's going to happen when they introduce the 2nd roles for the other jobs???

[Kaonis]

Yes there is, Summoner is a dps class, and Scholar is a Healing class. They need different gear, attributes, and everything.

So you main as one.. Summoner or Scholar, you don't main as both.

What's going to happen when they introduce the 2nd roles for the other jobs???

And despite that the game lets you change classes/jobs freely. The idea of maining with only one goes against the very core game concept of being able to play all jobs on a single character.

This speaks nothing of the fact that the bonus point system is worthless and only hinders future jobs. Honestly I expect the devs to either do away with it eventually or change it so each job has it's own allotment. Either way it's a worthless relic from 1.0 they haven't bothered to remove yet.

[XanderOlivieri]

And despite that the game lets you change classes/jobs freely. The idea of maining with only one goes against the very core game concept of being able to play all jobs on a single character.

This speaks nothing of the fact that the bonus point system is worthless and only hinders future jobs. Honestly I expect the devs to either do away with it eventually or change it so each job has it's own allotment. Either way it's a worthless relic from 1.0 they haven't bothered to remove yet.

Developers specifically said you aren't supposed to play both. Its a choice. You play as one or the other, even if you are allowed to use them all, you have to pick which one you want over the others. The same thing will happen with other classes when they get their second jobs. You will be forced to choose one job over the other. It works as designed and as intended. They won't throw it away so easily.

I main as a hybrid, so I do play both Summoner and Scholar. It is very much possible to play as a Scholar with 0 bonus MND. I have partnered up with Scholars with this build who Main as Scholars. Their heals are well balanced and the Crit rate build that they use out does the slightly lower than average heals they produce which is more beneficial for them than straight healing with no criticals.

[MathewZilla]

Developers specifically said you aren't supposed to play both

citation needed

ps this is retarded

[Hiroradius]

And despite that the game lets you change classes/jobs freely. The idea of maining with only one goes against the very core game concept of being able to play all jobs on a single character.

This speaks nothing of the fact that the bonus point system is worthless and only hinders future jobs. Honestly I expect the devs to either do away with it eventually or change it so each job has it's own allotment. Either way it's a worthless relic from 1.0 they haven't bothered to remove yet.

Actually you are wrong. The game does NOT let you change jobs freely, only classes. You can change your class from Archer to Puglist, but you do NOT change your job. Job's are special additions to the class.

So the way the class system works since people don't get it.

You are an Arcanist with a soul of a previous Summoner or Scholar attached to you. You GAIN the ability to be a Summoner of lore or a Scholar of lore from this, but in the current day of Final Fantasy 14, these classes are lost.

You are a Gladiator who equips and gains the abilities from a Paladin of the past from the soul crystal, but you are NOT a paladin.

Take off the soul crystal then suddenly guess what??? The ability points MATTER.

The ability points do NOT hinder new future jobs, because you have to choose one or the other. If you want to switch, you buy the potion that let's you reset your ability points, then if you want to switch again, you buy another potion.. after a while you run out of seals then need to go farm/grind seals.

The only way a job can have it's own allotment is if the base class, what you actually are, is different. You level as an Arcanist, you level as a Gladiator, you level as a Lancer, you do NOT level as a summoner, or dragoon.. Again you gain that soul crystal of a lost class to gain it's abilities, you are STILL the base class.

This is the design. This is how the game works, this is how the game is played. Stop trying to break the system because you have to waste time gathering seals to buy a potion because you can't decide if you want to be summoner or scholar.

[Assirra]

Because its the same class (arcanist) and you get points for the classes, not the jobs.
Its a matter of time before other classes will have to deal with the same once new jobs come out.

[XanderOlivieri]

Wow...Scholar is about to get a huge upgrade with all the new Crit gear

[MathewZilla]

Because its the same class (arcanist) and you get points for the classes, not the jobs.
Its a matter of time before other classes will have to deal with the same once new jobs come out.

Im not sure how this excuses it for being a retarded system?

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

I think the SE has been giving in to the min/maxer feel of things.

In 1.18ish, the stat allocation was separated between classes, rather than players deciding if they wanted to have tank stats, caster stats, gathering stats, etc. If SE is going to allow for individual jobs to allocate stats, I would rather they just take away allocation altogether.