hopefully in the future SE stops releasing glorified latency tests and labeling them

[jrollins89]

as boss fights.

the hit detection in this game is too suck for this.


On a serious note, things do need to change. Most games have some sort of lag compensation.

Further more, things need to happen way more instant in this game, both player skills (stuns and defensive cooldowns for example) and enemy AOEs.

I completely understand that you need to be out of the AOE by the time that the cast bar finishes. That doesn't explain why when doing something like Haukke Manor I can be stunned by Dark Mist when I'm half way accross the room. If I'm still in the AOE by the time the cast bar finishes then why am I still allowed to move all the way to the other side of the room by the time the stun hits? The effects of AOE need to be way more instant. This is just deceptive and leads to (understandable) suspicion of server lag.

[Doo]

End game content feels like an assembly line to me.

Yeah and I have to second guess myself from time to time whether I dodged something or not even though I know it's coming already.

[Deedsie]

That doesn't explain when doing something like Haukke Manor I can be stunned by Dark Mist when I'm half way accross the room. If I'm still in the AOE by the time the cast bar finishes then why am I still aloud to move all the way to the other side of the room by the time the stun hits? The effects of AOE need to be way more instant. This is just deceptive and leads to (understandable) suspicion of server lag.

I hear you. All too often I run out of Dark Mist only to be frozen in place BEHIND the healer. Same dang thing in Copperbell Mines on the last boss when I'd run out of the circle.

[LunarEmerald]

One shot mechanics with strict timing (less than 1 second of reaction time) need to be tossed out the window. It doesn't work when technology doesn't allow everybody to have perfect latency.

[Tupsi]

as boss fights.

With the exception of Monday and Tuesdays everything works for me here.

Every Boss fight is perfectly fine for me in XI. I mean you did say SE, which means you're talking about all of their MMOs.

I hear you. All too often I run out of Dark Mist only to be frozen in place BEHIND the healer. Same dang thing in Copperbell Mines on the last boss when I'd run out of the circle.

See, problem is - Your tanks can stun it or you can (as a DRG) or your BRD/MNK silence it. Why are people even running out of it? >.> It has such a long wind up time lol. Unless you're talking about a very specific version of it.

[Valmar]

yes the system is not perfect, but it is slowly improving. Rome wasn't built in a day you know.

[Deedsie]

See, problem is - Your tanks can stun it or you can (as a DRG) or your BRD/MNK silence it. Why are people even running out of it? >.> It has such a long wind up time lol. Unless you're talking about a very specific version of it.

The problem is the tanks I'm with too often Stun other things and resistance gets built up. Same applies to Copperbell last boss. As for Bards and Monks, I rarely get paired with them in Haukke. It's usually a Summoner or Black Mage, and the Bards either Silence the "wrong" abilities or just don't try at all while the Monks forget they can silence to begin with.

[Lumidus]

I only get this issue when I'm sending 0

[jrollins89]

See, problem is - Your tanks can stun it or you can (as a DRG) or your BRD/MNK silence it. Why are people even running out of it? >.> It has such a long wind up time lol.

And the problem with the community is that when you bring up legitimate points of criticism with the combat system then some people choose to put their hands over theirs and make replies that basically boil down to "lol git gut".

And I was only using Haukke as an example as the majority of players have completed it and I remember it was extremely apperant as a low level. I suppose I could have used Titan Extreme mode as an example as it is much more annoying in that fight but the majority of players haven't experienced it.

[Arcaloid]

yes the system is not perfect, but it is slowly improving. Rome wasn't built in a day you know.

Actually that's what worries me. The correct and once for all way to fix this is implementing client-side position check (and possibly some skill check like movement interrupt spell cast), but every 'fix' they've done so far (increase server check frequency, make server-side movement prediction for Titan EX) is to avoid going that route. This doesn't give me confidence on SE.