SE - Reverse these 3 things about Glamours QUICK

[Lemon8or]

You misunderstand. There is one-slot->multi-slot (e.g. Odin) which is NOT possible & multi-slot->one-slot (e.g. Hooded Robe to Unhooded Robe) which IS possible, however you can't then equip a head-slot.

If your arrow means "taking on the appearance of", then you're partially wrong. You cannot equip a head slot in your main armory cause the hooded robe takes a head slot. You cannot take on the head-slot glamour properties because of the way the game is programmed, which would take more time to reconfigure and debug.

[Balfreid]

You misunderstand. There is one-slot->multi-slot (e.g. Odin) which is NOT possible & multi-slot->one-slot (e.g. Hooded Robe to Unhooded Robe) which IS possible, however you can't then equip a head-slot.

I misunderstood nothing.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I fully support the idea you have to have a level 50 job accomplished to glamour your gear.

[Alwryn]

Just throwing this out there, but having to be level 50 and having to use similar slot gear? I can understand people complaining about that. I don't agree with them, but I understand them.

But complaining about the name? Really?

[AlexNiculaie]

Quick SE, drop everything you are doing and reprogram this feature before next week!!!!!!1!!

I don't see an honest issue with #1. I was never forced into something I didn't like at any level which didn't have an alternative somewhere.

#2 is something I am sure will come in time. It's not like this is immutable. They are giving us the basics first, and will expand as they have time. Just like almost everything else they have done.

#3 I have to laugh at. In what world is "Mirage Prism" more masculine that "Glamour?" It's one scepter away from being a Magic Girl transformation.

[OrganizationXIll]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...043.1384890391

1) Level 50 Requirement.

At least bump it down to 30... this puts out so much of the player-base of whom doesn't blitz to 50 on a single class (not me personally, but I know plenty of FC members who have been excited about the feature but will now be put out for a long time... especially since they'd need 50 for each class-type they want to Glamour). As well, this wouldn't be so bad if you'd informed us at the start... but this' very last minute to say "fifties only!".

2) Multi-slot->One-slot doesn't let you Glamour the next slot (e.g. head & chest darklight cowl to healer's robe).

So I can convert my hooded robe into a plain, bodily robe but am not then permitted to wear a headpiece. That's a bit ridiculous, don't you think?

BONUS: The Name.

Mirage Prism was 1,000x better. It's already bad enough I'm forced to display earrings on my rugged male Hyur... now I get to 'glamour' myself? If you let me glamour my jewelry into nothing-ness, that could work... but still, Glamour?!

Please & Thank You SE!

1. You only need ONE level 50 then you can use glamours on any class regardless of level. Its a level 50 quest to unlock the skill not a 50 level requirement. Same concept as the overmelding skill.

2. A lot of people disable the head gear anyway.. You can deal with it until you upgrade. Its a coding issue. They way its going to work is that the vanity gear is attached to the gear you wear. If there isn't gear in the head slot there isn't anything for you to bind the vanity gear to.

3. [EDIT: I was wrong] Still not a real issue... Why does the name bother you again?

Do your research and do be so picky for 3 weeks worth or Glamour usage.

[NyneAlexander]

you should change the original post to reflect that #2 and #3 were removed after discussion. Because I was very confused.

[Karnyboy]

BONUS (OPINION): The Name.

Mirage Prism was 1,000x better. It's already bad enough I'm forced to display earrings on my rugged male Hyur... now I get to 'glamour' myself? If you let me glamour my jewelry into nothing-ness, that could work... but still, Glamour?!


P.S. I'm not complaining, I just dislike the name. My emphasis lies more in the female-connotation of being "glamorous" in a Western Society... which' why I bring up the point I can't hide my earrings or necklace. Some may disagree, but I already feel forced into too much femininity in the game already.

Please & Thank You SE!

Monsters use glamours in game if you'd pay attention. Many leve's the Imps use them. Get over it, Mirage Prism is no better than Glamour, stop being stuck in the stone ages out of "fear" of a word.

[Airget]

It is surprising they haven't figured it out yet considering I'm sure a few were hoping to be able to use Odin's Vanity armor but now they can't.

Honestly I don't see what would be so hard to code, all they would need to do is always give "glamour" visual the priority but saying it like that I now see the issue.

This is prolly the issue they are faced with atm.

You have body armor, put odin's armor on it, it's set for body/hands/legs/feet.

However they don't have a means to set priority to which piece should be shown over the other, so while Odin's armor might work in a scenario where glamour hasn't been set on the hands/feet/legs, if a player were to put glamour on a hand/leg/feet piece in which the body had the odin piece, it wouldn't be able to prioritize which piece it should visualize and it most likely caused a crash in the system.

This however could be rectified if they were to create a priority list to the visuals, however they do have to keep in mind that what if different pieces come out with differne priorities how do they set it up.

But it might be easily fixed with the following idea

Equipment that takes 5 visual slots takes priority over all visuals
Equipment that takes 4 visual slots of wxyz takes priority of wxyz visuals
Equipment that takes 3 visual slots of xyz takes priority of xyz visuals
Equipment that takes 2 visual slots of yz takes priority of yz visuals
Equipment that takes x visuals slot takes priority over x visual

Pretty much the code would need to be worked to look at glamour, figure out which takes priority and then ignore other glamours if they are put into place. Which does sound like it take a bit of time to do.

The reason why it's easy to make the head/body piece look like a body and not vice versa is because the head/body piece is only taking up one slot, so there is no priority issue to consider since they can't put anything on the head piece

But on the flip side, since a single piece body being attached with a body/head visual, still leaves option to add a visual to the head piece and since they most likely are still working on the kinks to make it possible they just can't allow it atm.

[Raestloz]

However they don't have a means to set priority to which piece should be shown over the other

Actually, they do. Somewhat.

I'll give you a very easy example with the very high chance of making me look like a pervert:

On female, if you don't wear any body armor that covers the legs (such as, Coliseum Shawl of Summer Halter), Healer's Culottes will look like an underwear with a very mini skirt

If you wear something that covers the legs, such as Santa outfit, the miniskirt will be lost, leaving only the underwear
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For something that doesn't make me look like a pervert:
If you wear the Santa outfit, whatever is on your HAND slot will be replaced by the mitts, regardless if you actually wear the mitts on your HAND slot. The HAND slot is not occupied by santa outfit

I don't know the exact implementation of this system. There are a few ways they can do this:
1. They have an actual priority system such as Elder Scrolls' whatever has the highest priority point in a certain slot will be rendered, such as the Santa mitts case

2. They actually have separate models that has conditionals when to render, maybe the way they do it with female Healer's Culottes

Whatever it is, they do have a way to render something on a slot that it doesn't occupy.

As for hooded robes not getting access to glamouring the head, it's obviously because you don't actually have anything on your head. The multi-slot-taking equipments were made with the occupied slots' looks already implemented. The looks are tied to the equipment, not the slot. Maybe they can try to have an item capable of having two glamour entries, but we are yet to see it.

The cowled robes are fugly. Thank Byregot that they are usually low-level or easily replacable. Anything beyond Darklight only occupies one slot.

Odin armor not being available is indeed a shame. Vanity is the only actual reason to get Odin's equipment. The stat sucks, it unreliable to get, and it consumes so many slots