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    What I wonder is if people will ever start realizing that 90k is simply an error code designating that you got disconnected. It could be caused by dozens of different reasons. Every time someone says "this still happens?" an angel dies from the sheer lack of knowledge in that sentence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    What I wonder is if people will ever start realizing that 90k is simply an error code designating that you got disconnected. It could be caused by dozens of different reasons. Every time someone says "this still happens?" an angel dies from the sheer lack of knowledge in that sentence.
    Pretty sure people realise they've been disconnected.

    Where the annoyance comes from is when it only happens in duty finder or your whole party gets kicked out with 90k's at the same time. I don't think that's an isp issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kule View Post
    Pretty sure people realise they've been disconnected.

    Where the annoyance comes from is when it only happens in duty finder or your whole party gets kicked out with 90k's at the same time. I don't think that's an isp issue.
    Thank you for your carefully crafted response. However...

    Quote Originally Posted by Balfreid View Post
    Wait... these are still a thing?
    This is what I'm talking about. People clearly don't understand that there are multiple causes for 90k. 90k isn't a specific error. It is just a code. As the quote I just posted shows some people STILL think it is more than just an error code.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kule View Post
    Pretty sure people realise they've been disconnected.

    Where the annoyance comes from is when it only happens in duty finder or your whole party gets kicked out with 90k's at the same time. I don't think that's an isp issue.
    If it's during a heavily congested day, when more people than normal are trying to do instances, they cannot just add servers to support that kind of load. It's not economical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    What I wonder is if people will ever start realizing that 90k is simply an error code designating that you got disconnected. It could be caused by dozens of different reasons. Every time someone says "this still happens?" an angel dies from the sheer lack of knowledge in that sentence.
    So how do you explain me getting 90K 3 times in a row on my PC, move to my PS3, which is connected to the same internet, and no more 90K? It is a disconnection from the game, which no other games do that, even with servers in China, but you have to admit SE has a ton to do with it as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    So how do you explain me getting 90K 3 times in a row on my PC, move to my PS3, which is connected to the same internet, and no more 90K? It is a disconnection from the game, which no other games do that, even with servers in China, but you have to admit SE has a ton to do with it as well.
    I bolded the important part. All 90k means is that you got disconnected from the servers. That's all it means. Nothing more. Nothing less. You got disconnected 3 times in a row. It's still a 90k because you got disconnected. 90k has absolutely NO meaning as to what disconnected you or any information about the cause at all. It's also system independent. You can get it both on pc and ps3. It could be the servers, or it's your pc. Afterall you yourself just said you moved to your ps3 and suddenly the problem goes away. In troubleshooting you just eliminated the servers and made it very clearly a problem with your pc. 90k means absolutely nothing past "your connection has been broken." No amount of sassiness on your part will change that fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    I bolded the important part. All 90k means is that you got disconnected from the servers. That's all it means. Nothing more. Nothing less. You got disconnected 3 times in a row. It's still a 90k because you got disconnected. 90k has absolutely NO meaning as to what disconnected you or any information about the cause at all. It's also system independent. You can get it both on pc and ps3. It could be the servers, or it's your pc. Afterall you yourself just said you moved to your ps3 and suddenly the problem goes away. In troubleshooting you just eliminated the servers and made it very clearly a problem with your pc. 90k means absolutely nothing past "your connection has been broken." No amount of sassiness on your part will change that fact.
    No one is questioning the error code so no idea why you keep repeating the same post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kule View Post
    No one is questioning the error code so no idea why you keep repeating the same post.
    No, but people are reading far too much into an error code. Above one user specifically used it to try and act like it was unique to square and they must have a hand in it in some allusion I suppose to it being a server issue. The same user also said he went to his ps3 and the problem disappeared which points more to computer problems. Simply put people are using this error code as some sort of justification that square has something wrong on their servers. However, it does not give anyone that kind of information. At all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    No, but people are reading far too much into an error code. Above one user specifically used it to try and act like it was unique to square and they must have a hand in it in some allusion I suppose to it being a server issue. The same user also said he went to his ps3 and the problem disappeared which points more to computer problems. Simply put people are using this error code as some sort of justification that square has something wrong on their servers. However, it does not give anyone that kind of information. At all.
    It very well could be a server issue as I have been a part of entire parties that get 90k, log back in, get another party, curse about the 90k, and the other 3 people say they were booted as well.

    As for the problem unique to square, it is. SE runs FFXIV. Nothing else disconnects (Skype, AIM, Web Browsing) so the 90k error is unique to square.

    Also for me it only happens when in an instance and usually Monday/Tuesday (after reset) and the day before maintenance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by necrosis View Post
    It very well could be a server issue as I have been a part of entire parties that get 90k, log back in, get another party, curse about the 90k, and the other 3 people say they were booted as well.
    Yes, it COULD mean that, but it doesn't necessarily mean it either. Which is the point I'm trying to make. It doesn't give you enough information to make that judgement with any amount of certainty. Once again I cite the user above who had the issue on his pc and then moved to the ps3 and never saw it again. Sure it could have been square, possibly the isp, but it seems instead it's his pc since the moment he moved to the console the problem went away. For some users they may be having peering issues and that is causing disconnects and therefore 90ks. The point is that 90k is entirely too vague to make any such conclusions on because it can have so many sources. Each user has a difference situation and each user can have entirely different reasons for their 90k. Sometimes it could be the same thing, such as when users all 90k at once from an instance, other times it wont. It is far, far, far too vague.

    I understand disconnecting is frustrating, but lets try to keep reality in view when we try to put blame on people and point fingers.
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