Why I've not been playing as a Paladin lately...

[Maighdlin]

If you are worried about being undergeared you can put it on the backburner for a while until you have obtained some better gear via tokens. I did have some trouble and grief from players upon reaching lv50, but now that I am geared up and experienced it is very rewarding and I am making paladin my main class. It is unfortunate that people cause intimidation but once you are over the initial difficulties it becomes awesome and worth it.

Yep. I got most of my tomes of philosophy for the darklight from playing WHM. I have one piece left to get and I can already tell a difference. I can /almost/ speed run WP now. :-)

[XemnasXIII]

Hang in there. As. Fellow tank I know the trails a tribulations you have to endure in your path of becoming a great tank. Do not let those negative people get the best of you, learn at your own pace. After all, you do control whether a monster attacks them or not!

[Megido]

I am the Tank. My job is to take hate. I do not care who's hate it is. A big monster, or an angry little boy playing as a cat girl. It deflects off of my raging muscles, iron will, and plated armor as i shrug it off with a manly sigh. You do not affect me. For i am the Tank.

[GuardianX]

Keep at tanking no matter what other people say. As long as you know how to hold hate, I don't care how slow paced a dungeon goes. As a whm, I support a tank and as long as your not rude I will always support a player. A lot of us forget this is a game to be enjoyed not to be intimidated.

[Killabye]

I haven't really had any problems since I started my new method, just being a dick to everyone. If they pull hate, go for it. They talk trash, they usually die next mob. Sometimes I just tell them to vote to kick and do something else for a few minutes with responses like "why" "waaaaaa" etc, then I come back and reque. If I gotta run the show they gotta dance how I tell them

[Steffie]

I haven't really had any problems since I started my new method, just being a dick to everyone. If they pull hate, go for it. They talk trash, they usually die next mob. Sometimes I just tell them to vote to kick and do something else for a few minutes with responses like "why" "waaaaaa" etc, then I come back and reque. If I gotta run the show they gotta dance how I tell them

I met a tank exactly like how you described. It was no fun working with him because he literally don't pull aggro off anyone even the healer. he would even intentionally wiped in boss fight because another dps called him out on not pulling aggro off. As much as i hate DPS who are being dickheads, tanks who are being dickhead is much worse. I usually warn the dps and give them at least a chance or two before going dickhead mode.

[Ashkendor]

I know that feel. It took me two days to work up the courage to do the last few dungeons in my main scenario because of a few people I ran into while leveling up. Seriously, why do people assume everyone already knows what they're doing? There ARE new people in this game.

[Darkduck]

see I have experienced the complete opposite. I have said to people "first time here sorry guys" and people have been great, explaining fights, bosses etc.

I think it requires kindness on all parts, I have had healers who cannot heal, DPS who cannot dps (the right target why attack number 2 when there is a number 1 argH) but I learn to live, and move on, it is the minority of cases and really if 90% are good, and 10% are bad, I can live with the 10%. Worst case scenario...I am with them for 1 hour of my life, then they are gone.

So chillax, and realise that you are not above reproach or perfect, and as such we must make allowances for all people and live with it.

Be nice to eachother, and remember to /soothe people!

[Kitru]

I met a tank exactly like how you described. It was no fun working with him because he literally don't pull aggro off anyone even the healer.

I play in a similar style to what was described, though the only time that I'll let someone "tank" instead of me is if that DPS is being *really* annoying and doing someone monumentally exasperating like explicitly choosing to attack a target other than the burn target. Even though, it's often more harder for me to let them get aggro than it is for me to just keep aggro on everything: a couple Overpowers and a Steel Cyclone is basically a free pass to AFK as a WAR.

If a DPS or healer wants to be an annoying little shit, I've got no problem either getting them kicked or leaving myself; it's just leveraging the comparative rarity of my skill set. If I leave, all I'm losing is 30 minutes of time in which I can't queue (but can still do PF to my heart's content, so it's not like I'm actually losing anything), but they'll be waiting around for a tank (generally longer than my own wait would be) or, much more likely, straight up abandoning the instance because it takes so long to get a replacement tank; if they get kicked, they're going to go through another interminable DPS/healer queue. It's one of the many benefits of enjoying/playing the least popular role. There are plenty of DPS/healers that complain about it when tanks do it but I doubt that they ever consider that the stuff that I bail on groups over is part of the reason why there are so few tanks, which is exactly why I do it.

[Kitru]

I have said to people "first time here sorry guys" and people have been great, explaining fights, bosses etc.

It depends largely upon the content. If it's a dungeon, explaining the fights isn't really a big deal since it's not like there's much of a learning curve. For HM>EX primals or Coil, you can expect to get a lot more flack because people just don't have an interest in going through the normal (extended) learning process with random people on content they've had on farm for months now.

I'm also of the mind that I would rather be told about someone's lack of experience/knowledge before we start as opposed to after they've demonstrated their lack of knowledge/skill. The whole "asking permission/begging forgiveness" adage doesn't really fly with me since refusing to acknowledge your own shortcomings is simply choosing to waste my time and still require that I explain the stuff to you, except now I have to do it *after* you've wiped us instead of before.