Why I've not been playing as a Paladin lately...

[Anty]

i did so many SR on tank, healer, blm, etc...
but when i enter , lately usually as tank, i always look at the setup, the gear etc. Many ppl do want Speedruns even though their jobs don't really fit and the gear also isn't good enough to do a proper speedrun.
So you end up being slower pushing a SR which is stupid.

So i always ask the people if they want a SR or if they wanna take it slow. The difference isnt that huge and if i really want to grind tomes i get people for a speedrun and do it with them multiple times in a row.

But i agree with many people here, take your time, and don't let them annoy you. I lvled my tanks last, cause ive seen how badly people treat them (no kidding). Its a shame but thats the way it is.


Lately on Garuda X (never MT it just OT) we waited for hrs in partyfinder. Didnt find a tank, so i said, ok ill do it, but im no pro. Things didnt go smooth (which wasnt all my fault as well). But 2 people left after 3 attempts (perhaps 10 min all together) because they wanted to win...

They rather wait another 2 hours to get a tank that "maybe" a pro, then get it done with a guy that is new to tanking X and in the end the community ends up with another tank that is able to do it. If people continue to treat tanks like they actually do, i'm not surprised at all, why tanks just won't join random groups anymore. Sad but true.

[Themis]

They rather wait another 2 hours to get a tank that "maybe" a pro, then get it done with a guy that is new to tanking X and in the end the community ends up with another tank that is able to do it. If people continue to treat tanks like they actually do, i'm not surprised at all, why tanks just won't join random groups anymore. Sad but true.

Not just tanks, but people in general. There's already a lot of players who are terrified of even opening the PF, some even of the DF, simply because of the incredible attitude that others have. I don't use the PF unless I'm looking for 1 or 2 random people, and I'll rarely (I've joined a group once, maybe twice) join in a group. I'm playing to have fun, not be subjected to the crap that usually comes with it. It also annoys me when people bail almost immediately because of one wipe. Until it looks like the group has hit a brick wall, I'll always keep fighting.

I guess these players are looking for a group to carry them through. Not necessarily because they aren't skilled enough themselves, but because they're only interested in the loot. I enjoy an MMO for the player interaction, cooperation and shared goals; my reward comes from seeing someone who is ecstatic that someone actually stuck it out for them.

I'm definitely one of the minority in that regard, as is anyone else who does the same. Pick your friends, make an LS/FC, and just hang around with them.

[Aujo]

Lately on Garuda X (never MT it just OT) we waited for hrs in partyfinder. Didnt find a tank, so i said, ok ill do it, but im no pro. Things didnt go smooth (which wasnt all my fault as well). But 2 people left after 3 attempts (perhaps 10 min all together) because they wanted to win...

They rather wait another 2 hours to get a tank that "maybe" a pro, then get it done with a guy that is new to tanking X and in the end the community ends up with another tank that is able to do it. If people continue to treat tanks like they actually do, i'm not surprised at all, why tanks just won't join random groups anymore. Sad but true.

oh yes i am one of those people who leave even after 1 wipe if i found the party sucks. I have wiped enough in my learning phase and if i wanted to learn how to play a new job i go DF not a PF... and i refused to party with noobs, cos where were they when i am learning the fight!.... i rather wait for 2hrs cos in the meantime i can go out, eat food, watch a movie, read the forums, porn, sex, sleep so many things to do!!!! rather than frustrating myself with a noob

[MM-31]

Tanking is actually relatively fun in this game, what kills the enthusiasm is people's expectations of the tank; we're required to know fights inside out, we have to mark exactly what mobs require what being done to them (and even then most people just don't follow marks), we have to accommodate for other peoples error when **** hits the fan and to top it all off when things go wrong, we're the first port of call when it comes to questioning the composition of the party. I'm not saying tanks are blameless however, it just quite rare that it's solely down to the ability or purely hinging on the performance of the tank.

And don't even get me started on CT.

[AlexanderRed]

oh yes i am one of those people who leave even after 1 wipe if i found the party sucks. I have wiped enough in my learning phase and if i wanted to learn how to play a new job i go DF not a PF...and i refused to party with noobs, cos where were they when i am learning the fight!.... i rather wait for 2hrs cos in the meantime i can go out, eat food, watch a movie, read the forums, porn, sex, sleep so many things to do!!!! rather than frustrating myself with a noob

while you have a point, with the DF, I still dont see why you wouldn't want to at least teach someone else if they happen to be greener than you. Understandably nobody wants the responsibility of doing such but how are newer players going to get better if the veterans dont want to waste time with them? I wouldn't want to know what kind of community the servers would become if more people adopted your attitude.