Why do sch and smn share point allocation

[ManaKeKz]

This whole point allocation business just feels like a half-assed attempt at customization. You get to "choose" between 3 stats that do exactly nothing for your class (4 if you're a tank), Piety (which does exactly nothing for almost every class, but may have some justifiable applications on healers and casters), Vitality for those extra HP that you barely ever need (unless you're a tank) or your main stat that gives you a decent boost in performing the job you chose to do...
The only instance where the choice really becomes one is when you are forced to decide between Scholar and Summoner. Any way you look at it, one of them gets the shaft and that's quite a shame - I would've loved to play my Summoner, but neither respeccing all the time nor losing 30 points of int seemed very appealing to me, so now I dps on a Black Mage - essentially just removing one job I would have played.

[Ninix]

It's really, really stupid and the whole stat allocation system is terrible, but they've repeated many times that this is the way they have intended it to be and they are not planning on changing it. Additionally, when we get more branching jobs for other classes in future patches or expansions, they will have to deal with the same thing.

[Hiroradius]

Because Summoner and Scholars are advanced Arcanists.. That's all. They are not something different they are just using Arcanists different ways. Deal with it.

I just can't believe after this long people STILL post these, "I don't like how the system works so change it" kinda things... it's the design of the game, deal with it or don't be an Arcanist..

[Argyle_Darkheart]

I just can't believe after this long people STILL post these, "I don't like how the system works so change it" kinda things... it's the design of the game, deal with it or don't be an Arcanist..

Why, in a regularly updated game, would you just bend over and accept what you feel are crap design choices? It's not interesting; it's not fun, and I don't care if SE thinks it's good design.

Personally, I would MUCH rather level two jobs than have them share stat allocations, if that's what it takes.

[ManaKeKz]

Personally, I would MUCH rather level two jobs than have them share stat allocations, if that's what it takes.

Agreed.

/10char

[Hiroradius]

Why, in a regularly updated game, would you just bend over and accept what you feel are crap design choices? It's not interesting; it's not fun, and I don't care if SE thinks it's good design.

Personally, I would MUCH rather level two jobs than have them share stat allocations, if that's what it takes.

Oh I would have rathered leveled a brand new job myself.. Heck I'd rather have had to make a new character to have a new job, not be everything on my one character.. but that isn't how SE designed their game. So we just deal with it.

[sheepysheepy]

10,000 seals is not a huge deal late in the game.. a lot of people are sitting on 50,000 and don't even spend them, i poured them into hymnkeepers books for a while and have 18 in my inventory just in case


just switch once a week instead of 10 times a day..

[ManaKeKz]

just switch once a week instead of 10 times a day..

But once a week doesn't really cut it. If you're healing in higher end PvE content say 2 raid days a week and wanna play SMN in between, you'd have at least 4 books per week (2 switches to Scholar for the 2 raid days and switching back to Summoner after). I for one am not willing to farm 40k seals per week just so I can play my Summoner well so I just geared up my Black Mage and never looked at SMN again. Which is a shame, really - it's a fun job to play.

[shields977]

But once a week doesn't really cut it. If you're healing in higher end PvE content say 2 raid days a week and wanna play SMN in between, you'd have at least 4 books per week (2 switches to Scholar for the 2 raid days and switching back to Summoner after). I for one am not willing to farm 40k seals per week just so I can play my Summoner well so I just geared up my Black Mage and never looked at SMN again. Which is a shame, really - it's a fun job to play.

You can reassign your stats to 15 Mind and 15 Intelligence. That results in a mere 22 HP per Adloquium reduction on average according to the healing returns calculator here. That shouldn't prevent you from doing endgame content.

[Leigaon]

I guess it does seem to make you want to choose to do the job or not because if you're going to want to be top in your game, you want every point to benefit you.At the same time, having 30 INT on my SMN and playing SCH I've yet to find a situation where I go "If I only had that 30 MND...if only."

Then again I guess it's more than just SCH and SMN but on the future of other jobs. Take WAR, adding a DPS that requires STR and those people having the same conflict.

In the end there might be two jobs to every class, and no one will want to equip them all. People will have to choose and that will be that. Plus I doubt those who are so outraged? will care if another job comes out they like more than SCH or SMN.

Arcanist is the first to do this so it's going to be put under fire...this will come up again when they do this to other classes...like..bard