Thread: 2.2 Retainers via Microtransactions

Originally Posted by C-croft

Of course it isn't free due to a sub, but they could easily have made retainers cost money period. No base of 2 retainers and the benefits they provide. But since we do get 2 retainers for our sub, 1 more is a convenience. We are paying for an allotment of data on the servers. A small fee to increase the data allotment is hardly unreasonable as it is an extra to your base access. Like a smartphone, even though it is broken out of your phone plan, you have to pay for a certain amount of data, 3gb or w/e these days. It doesn't matter if it is broken out or not, because it is a requirement to have a smartphone on the network. If you want more data, you pay an extra fee. We don't have access to an entire database for storage, we have to share among all other players. Also, if you are going to complain about the armoire make a post about that. It still stores things, it still works, just not in a reasonable way at times.

And why do the other P2P MMOs do it then, when they let us get extra storage paying with in-game currency? No, the real issue is in that charging for it doesn't seem to be needed and that it doesn't follow with what they've been doing and saying until now. Not to mention all the other potential issues that others have pointed out.

Also, I'm sorry, but the armoire issues are related to retainers as well, as we have to store in them some items (19 right now, if not mistaken) for 3 months until they allow us to put them in the armoire as they should be from the start (that's what said feature is intended to do). I never complained about that before because it didn't really matter if it was just temporary, I was able to have some patience. But when they start charging real money for retainer space (thus making any wasted space worth actual money), thats where I have to say "there's the limit".

Originally Posted by KraggyKor

LOL, they're totally related but that doesn't fit your agenda so I see why you say they're not .. as for 'new', if you know it's nothing new to SE why the shock horror?

You're right, playable characters and what amounts to extra inventory space are exactly alike - not sure how could I have missed that. /sarcasm

And what is this "shock and horror" you're referring to? Is that how you take the others opinions?

The most they should sell is stuff like phials of phantasia, name changes

I'm against that. An RPG should have permanent choices, and those two are pretty much the only once that are semi-permanent at the moment.

Originally Posted by Amberion

I'm against that. An RPG should have permanent choices, and those two are pretty much the only once that are semi-permanent at the moment.

A single player rpg that lasts 60-80 hours, yes, should have permanent choices.

A multi-player RPG that drastically changes 4 times a year, and will likely be running 7-10 years? No. If something changes, I want to be able to make use of said change and not have to start over.

Originally Posted by Djeserit

A single player rpg that lasts 60-80 hours, yes, should have permanent choices.

A multi-player RPG that drastically changes 4 times a year, and will likely be running 7-10 years? No. If something changes, I want to be able to make use of said change and not have to start over.

Well, I have yet to find a game that won't allow you to do something based on your name and appearance. Well, unless it's male/female thing. But usually then, there are 2 versions of the same thing.

Originally Posted by Amberion

Well, I have yet to find a game that won't allow you to do something based on your name and appearance. Well, unless it's male/female thing. But usually then, there are 2 versions of the same thing.

But when they introduce new races, some people want to switch them. Or as far as names go, they choose a silly name because they didn't think they would play the game seriously, and later in life regretted it as they found out they really liked X game and want to stick with it. It's really all about not wanting to loose progression with your main character but wanting to adjust things like race and such. Or for people are into rp'ing or just really into the lore, I'd imagine they would want lore appropriate names if they switched race. I know I have a friend who wants to change his lallafel into something else, but he would be stuck with a lala name and it's the only reason he doesn't use his phantasia.

Originally Posted by Felis

But they never given up the plan to sell extra retainers.
Or they wouldn't have written this as they announced the coming fee in december 2011 before they activated p2p service:
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...yopemeopw.html

It was only not buyable during 1.0 because the payment service was deactivated until january 2012 (couldn't buy anything except crystas) and after the payment service was activated they delayed it until 2.0 because 1.0 ended soon anyway.

That's outdated info from, like you said, 2011. The correct one is the following: http://support.na.square-enix.com/fa...5382&kid=64539

It doesn't mention anything about retainers there.