2.2 Retainers via Microtransactions

**Doo** · 03-20-2014 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz

They are selling CONVENIENCE. NOT pay to win.

Is convenience a form of P2W?

Originally Posted by MCS

Most ppl that complains here are poor people and remain poor, you shall. You are poor not because people have advantage, you are poor because you don't use your brain.

I'm poor because I don't consider what you do to earn money fun.

**DarkStar** · 03-20-2014 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Doo

Is convenience a form of P2W?

No, it really isn't. I'm honestly amazed people are going this crazy over being able to do the equivalent of buying more bank slots. It's not a massive game-changer, if you actually NEED that much storage space, you're either a packrat or you don't spend nearly as much time sorting, discarding, and selling stored items as you should be.

Admittedly, I'm going to be purchasing probably one more retainer, but that's mainly just because, well, I'm a bit of a packrat. Particularly when it comes to equipment sets and weapons that I find interesting. However, not everybody is like me, and so they obviously won't be buying the extra retainer slots. If people buy the extra retainers specifically for more Ventures per day, that's fine, they can do that. It's essentially the same as buying Treasure Maps off the market board to get past the restrictions on acquiring maps.

**Doo** · 03-20-2014 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by DarkStar

No, it really isn't. I'm honestly amazed people are going this crazy over being able to do the equivalent of buying more bank slots. It's not a massive game-changer, if you actually NEED that much storage space, you're either a packrat or you don't spend nearly as much time sorting, discarding, and selling stored items as you should be.

It just seems like players always try to justify something not being p2w if it doesn't directly lead to a kill. Kind of like in DCUO where they sold replay badges which allow players to unlock locked end game raids to earn top of the line loot faster. "You still have to get the kill/run the content". Also they said the same thing about Diablo 3's RMT AH.

It's not that big of a deal to me retainers (maybe it will be not sure yet), it's more of what it usually leads to. Already seen the consequences of it in DCUO.

**Xellos2099** · 03-20-2014 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Doo

It just seems like players always try to justify something not being p2w if it doesn't directly lead to a kill. Kind of like in DCUO where they sold replay badges which allow players to unlock locked end game raids to earn top of the line loot faster. "You still have to get the kill/run the content". Also they said the same thing about Diablo 3's RMT AH.

It's not that big of a deal to me retainers, it's more of what it usually leads to. Already seen the consequences of it in DCUO.

That;s different, replay badge is selling power, so does the Diablo 3 rmah, they are selling power.

**Doo** · 03-20-2014 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Xellos2099

That;s different, replay badge is selling power, so does the Diablo 3 rmah, they are selling power.

Just curious are you going to buy a retainer? I assume most players will end up feeling like they need to buy it. That's the thing I don't like the most. I don't feel that way about having another account.

**C-croft** · 03-20-2014 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Doo

Just curious are you going to buy a retainer? I assume most players will end up feeling like they need to buy it. That's the thing I don't like the most. I don't feel that way about having another account.

If you had asked me this question two months ago I would have said yes. But now that the only two jobs left to level are old and blm... Nah. Plenty of room now that I am shedding gear from my retainers like crazy. Plus if you are smart, you will find it much easier to buy HQ leve items to plvl your crafts from the market. The money I make from leves and myth farm goes into the market for this purpose.

**Xellos2099** · 03-20-2014 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by Doo

Just curious are you going to buy a retainer? I assume most players will end up feeling like they need to buy it. That's the thing I don't like the most. I don't feel that way about having another account.

Undecided, if i need it i will buy it. Do I prefer it free, sure. But if i am given a choice of either no more retainer or pay a buck more for 1 and i need it, sure i will pay a buck. Fact of life, SE is not doing too hot recent beside ARR, if paying a bit more is going to help the company stay afloat and the fee is reasonable and not pissing me off, i will do it.

**AmyNeudaiz** · 03-20-2014 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Doo

It just seems like players always try to justify something not being p2w if it doesn't directly lead to a kill. Kind of like in DCUO where they sold replay badges which allow players to unlock locked end game raids to earn top of the line loot faster. "You still have to get the kill/run the content". Also they said the same thing about Diablo 3's RMT AH.

It's not that big of a deal to me retainers, it's more of what it usually leads to. Already seen the consequences of it in DCUO.

Should we not be allowed to have 2 accounts to mail stuff between the 2 and have 32 retainers then? As you say, that's pay to win!

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