2.2 Retainers via Microtransactions

**Doo** · 03-20-2014 03:17 AM

Do you think players that are in favor of cash shops are rmters?

**Alwryn** · 03-20-2014 03:20 AM

Originally Posted by Doo

Do you think players that are in favor of cash shops are rmters?

By that stretch of logic, everyone playing the game is an rmter. Since everyone is in favor of spending real money to play the game.

**Mindylou** · 03-20-2014 03:24 AM

no issues in any way if retainers are a microtransaction.

**TheUltimate3** · 03-20-2014 03:24 AM

Originally Posted by Alwryn

By that stretch of logic, everyone playing the game is an rmter. Since everyone is in favor of spending real money to play the game.

Logic bomb.

Actual opinion, no devil's advocate.

I would prefer additional retainers not being from the Mog Station, but I'm not surprised. Right from the jump, we are given the ability to have two retainers with over 150(?) slots each. With 300(?) bank slots, if you are filling them up to full then that is your problem. And note, I have filled my retainers up to full, but I'm an idiot. Even if retainers couldn't go out on ventures, simply adding another 150 slots of storage space would be stupid on its own.

As I've said before though, I am far more interested in the Fantasia potion. I knew that was gonna be a premium item (as appearance changing items should always be).

**Doo** · 03-20-2014 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by Alwryn

By that stretch of logic, everyone playing the game is an rmter. Since everyone is in favor of spending real money to play the game.

I wouldn't be surprised. RMT business got to come from some where and we know that RMT is huge in FFXIV. Cash shops are pretty much legalize rmt.

**Finuve** · 03-20-2014 03:30 AM

good to see that everyone (sans 1) ignored my post about defining pay 2 win

Remember, your definition of winning and someone elses definition of winning could be very different things, as two players can have very different goals in game, AND many players have multiple goals

The benefit of a subscription model is supposed to be that everyone has equal access to everything negating any advantage over ANY play style

**PROBOUND** · 03-20-2014 03:30 AM

My 2 FULL retainers thank you SE! .99 cents comin your way!

**Alwryn** · 03-20-2014 03:32 AM

Originally Posted by Doo

I wouldn't be surprised. RMT business got to come from some where and we know that RMT is huge in FFXIV. Cash shops are pretty much legalize rmt.

It's true, RMT is a sustainable business, else it wouldn't be here.

Cash shops can be legal RMT, yes. Key word however, is can. It can only be considered RMT if it buys a tangible advantage in game. It's possible SE could go down the darker path, but I don't believe they will.

**Alwryn** · 03-20-2014 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by Finuve

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Oh, people can have different definitions of what entails p2W? Who knew. Maybe people can have different definitions of what a subscription model is "supposed to be" as well!

Hehe, now I'm just having fun with ya but as long as it doesn't hold a tangible advantage over someone else in gameplay/progression then I don't consider it p2W.

**Finuve** · 03-20-2014 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by Alwryn

Oh, people can have different definitions of what entails p2W? Who knew. Maybe people can have different definitions of what a subscription model is "supposed to be" as well!

Hehe, now I'm just having fun with ya but as long as it doesn't hold a tangible advantage over someone else in gameplay/progression then I don't consider it p2W.

your definition of winning is gameplay/progression, mine are gameplay/progression and character design. If vanity items start being locked behind a paywall then that is pay 2 win to me, as one of my main sources of enjoyment in the game is designing my character and am greatly looking forward to glamors due to that.

If vanity items start being cash shop items, I'm out in a heartbeat

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