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  1. #81
    Player Bizniztyme's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    FFXI Extra Characters- Mules in most peoples eyes ( used for storing items, and in that game you got even LESS storage space 30 spaces.. need 6 Mules to roughly equal 1 retainer XD.
    FFXIV Extra Retainers- Used for storing items.

    The only difference is Extra Retainers give you A LOT more space. Not exactly sure how this equals- P2W It's not like your retainer is giving you the best gear in the game (or any gear for that manner) for free right?

    This whole Retainer Venture thing could be something sort of a "Gobbie bag" type thing from FFXI, except as you level up your retainer you get more storage space.

    Edit: Personally, I don't see why people need more then the 2 that they are giving. I have a feeling this feature won't be used a lot.
    It's probably just going to be for storage space just like your mule in ffxi and the only retainers you can level and send out on ventures are the ones you get in game.
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  2. #82
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    Alwryn Tourn
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    I'm not going to read 8 pages to post this, so hah! (Sorry if this has already been posted a thousand times.)

    1. I have all jobs 50, all jobs geared, a bunch of crafting jobs 50, craft regularly, a bunch of junk items from 1.X, all seasonals, more, and I am nowhere near filling up both my retainers.

    2. It's not P2W because the currency to send out retainers is limited, it has a cap to how much you can gain in a certain time.
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  3. #83
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    Starlord's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    It's probably just going to be for storage space just like your mule in ffxi and the only retainers you can level and send out on ventures are the ones you get in game.
    Agreed 10000000%
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    It's probably just going to be for storage space just like your mule in ffxi and the only retainers you can level and send out on ventures are the ones you get in game.
    Tell me - How would they separate which retainers are which? You're only flagged as having x amount of retainers not only that, why would they separate it like this? That makes less sense that the retainers you can buy would have less functionality than the ones you get after a chain of piss easy quests lol.

    ..How does that make any sense? Not only that but it would actually be violating some laws if they did a setup like that.
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    Last edited by Tupsi; 03-20-2014 at 02:45 AM.

  5. #85
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    Seif Dincht
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    This is exactly why I PAY MONEY for this game not to deal with microtransaction bs. SE you can NOT think this is accepptable in ANY way.

    This is a complete betrayal of trust. And definitely will make me look for other games to play should this ever happen.

    We pay you money to make content for the game. Not to make stuff to buy. We have already paid for this service that you are now selling us!
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    Last edited by Seif; 03-20-2014 at 02:37 PM.

  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    This is exactly why I PAY MONEY for this game not to deal with microtransaction bullshit. SE you can NOT think this is accepptable in ANY way.

    This is a complete betrayal of trust. And definitely will make me look for other games to play should this ever happen.

    We pay you money to make content for the game. Not to make stuff to buy. We have already paid for this service that you are now selling us!
    You've been here since 1.0.

    You know full well they planned to charge for additional retainers.
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  7. #87
    Player Bizniztyme's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Tell me - How would they separate which retainers are which? You're only flagged as having x amount of retainers not only that, why would they separate it like this? That makes less sense that the retainers you can buy would have less functionality than the ones you get after a chain of piss easy quests lol.

    ..How does that make any sense?
    I dont know, i'm not a programmer but I'm sure a smart programmer could simply just flag a retainer as a bought retainer somehow? Makes alot of sense to me.
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    This is exactly why I PAY MONEY for this game not to deal with microtransaction bullshit. SE you can NOT think this is accepptable in ANY way.

    This is a complete betrayal of trust. And definitely will make me look for other games to play should this ever happen.

    We pay you money to make content for the game. Not to make stuff to buy. We have already paid for this service that you are now selling us!
    Woah, calm down now chicken little. Sky ain't falling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    We pay you money to make content for the game. Not to make stuff to buy. We have already paid for this service that you are now selling us!
    Technically, you pay to access their servers, not for them to actually make stuff.

    /devilsadvocate

    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    I dont know, i'm not a programmer but I'm sure a smart programmer could simply just flag a retainer as a bought retainer somehow? Makes alot of sense to me.
    And I am a programmer (a laughably bad one, but one nonetheless) but it is possible to flag specific things to function differently. If they added a line of code or something to Station Bought Retainers, they could very easily set those ones to be different than the in game ones.
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    Last edited by TheUltimate3; 03-20-2014 at 02:49 AM.

  10. #90
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    I do not like microtransaction as well but think of it this way. If you are given a choice of NEVER able to changing your character appearance and never have more retainer slot or have a "choice" of paying to made them available, i am sure majority of the population will ops for the later. NOW if SE start selling power then we got problems to be concern about.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXA559KNopI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0TT_SGL-oc

    This video is main about f2p games and microtransaction but it also include some interesting concept.
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    Last edited by Xellos2099; 03-20-2014 at 02:52 AM.

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