Thread: 2.2 Retainers via Microtransactions

How do you "win" by having multiple Retainers available to Venture? Yes, you'll get more items - but, as far as we know, Retainers gather very few items even at their highest level. You'd also need gear for every single retainer, as I assume it's equipable and once attached to a Retainer another one can't wear it at the same time. It'd take a good amount of time/effort to actually maximize the effects of all your Retainers (you'd also have to level them ALL up), so in reality you aren't paying to win - you're paying to get access to the ability to put in an (at least) moderate amount of effort for very minimal reward. There are a lot of factors we really just don't know about in regards to Ventures so it's kind of hard to defend or be against it... though I can't really imagine gil will make you "win" anything in a game where the best gear is from dungeons. Maybe you can monopolize some area of the market with enough work (and assuming you're gathering/crafting while all your Retainers are... among many other things) but that's about all you can really do.

Paying for more Retainers doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me. I probably wouldn't bother getting any unless the price was low and I was running out of inventory space - not the case for me atm, however.

Originally Posted by Razzle

Give fantasia as a quest reward? As a seal exchange? As a rare drop? As a treasure hunt? Why pay on top of a monthly fee for that?

i am okay with that. FF MMOs are not like others. people have one character that can do most everything, people are identified by their name, race and general appearance. it should not be easy to change your character in game besides basic cosmetics and that's what we got.

See? Everyone who said "SE AND FFXIV WILL NEVER HAVE MICROTRANSACTIONS!" honestly don't keep up with any interviews when Yoshi straight up said the mog station is being setup for that and even back in 1.0 buying additional retainer's via an extra fee was going to happen.

Even when yoshi took over he said he was going to retain that but pricing wasn't determined. Those who hate 'P2W' or microtransactions, you shouldn't have bought DLC or made F2P/B2W MMOs popular, you send the message we want this

As said, even XI does it and they did it recently with bonus item codes to "test the water" and it went over well and no one really complained because it only offered an "advantage" up until level 30.

Originally Posted by Valendred

It's a travesty that this is the current state of the gaming industry, to be frank.

Yeah, but it's the players that didn't notice this that lead to that. As a marketing person of a big company I can easily tell what's behind the good talks and cute presentations of shops and developer letters.

SE is a business and it wants to make as much money as possible, but players should see the big picture when they agree to pay for something and not just what the company present to them.

This whole thing wouldn't be an issue if paid retainers were simply ONLY for storage space.

I have no problem when there is a charge for services(name change,race change,server transfer etc) when you pay a sub.Anything else you should get with your sub imo.I dont like when companies double dip but understand they are in business to make max profit.Like someone else said the days of sub only are pretty much dead.

Originally Posted by SendohJin

i am okay with that. FF MMOs are not like others. people have one character that can do most everything, people are identified by their name, race and general appearance. it should not be easy to change your character in game besides basic cosmetics and that's what we got.

Huh? It is easy to change your character if the potion is on the shop.
It is not easy to change your character if the potion is a rare drop, or requires days of work, you know, actually playing the game than just accessing an online store and buying one.

Originally Posted by Tupsi

See? Everyone who said "SE AND FFXIV WILL NEVER HAVE MICROTRANSACTIONS!" honestly don't keep up with any interviews when Yoshi straight up said the mog station is being setup for that and even back in 1.0 buying additional retainer's via an extra fee was going to happen.

Is subscription fee a microtransaction?
Is an optional additional fee charged a microtransaction, that we don't even know if it's recurring or onetime?

Microtransactions to me are when you pay a miniscule amount of money for some item, and can do that whenever you want as many times as you want.
Paying for extra bullets in some mobile phone game... that's microtransaction. These retainers... I can't fit them under the microtransaction umbrella...