Thread: 2.2 Retainers via Microtransactions

Originally Posted by Felis

Even if it was known since 2010 that we can someday get an extra retainer for 1$/month?

Lots of things changed since 2010. I don't think that I've to tell you the whole story.

Originally Posted by Musashidon

standards change, there is nothing wrong with dlc or cash shops they help fund the games and companys you so hold dear but it's nice to know you couldn't care less.

Actually, because I care I say that. To give you an example, I really liked BioWare but they eventually took some decisions that made some of their games not really up to the standards that they always holded highly. That disappointed a lot of people in the process, and hurted the name of the company to the point that they had to adapt and make a move. Even then, the trust that they had is not the same as it was before, and they'll have to regain people's faith in the future. Standards might change, but when they're unjustified they're usually bad changes.

Companies have to get money after all, that's one of the main reasons why they exist. But there's a limit to what some of us can accept in regards to the hard balance between greed and good will. That's why EA and ActiVision aren't the most loved of the publishers out there, and the same can be said about other companies like Nexon and Co. The situation here regarding retainers is one of these changes that seem uncalled for, besides for pure greed. And some of us don't really understand the change and hope that SE listens (as they've done in the past).

Originally Posted by Licus

Get over it. Games have microtransactions now.

Well, certainly with that attitude, consumers will never get a deal that's good for them. I'm sure the companies love you and people like you, though, who are willing to accept every little extra charge they throw at you.

Companies have to get money after all, that's one of the main reasons why they exist. But there's a limit to what some of us can accept in regards to the hard balance between greed and good will. That's why EA and ActiVision aren't the most loved of the publishers out there, and the same can be said about other companies like Nexon and Co. The situation here regarding retainers is one of these changes that seem uncalled for, besides for pure greed. And some of us don't really understand the change and hope that SE listens (as they've done in the past).[/QUOTE]

I honestly don;t see the big deal.... back in xi we has to pay extra dollar for every mule and garden mule, how is it any different?

Originally Posted by Naunet

The $15 per month I already pay helps fund the game I hold dear.

doesn't sound like it to me, all you're spouting is i deserve everything i pay a flat fee how dare they try to make more money to make more content for a game i supposedly like.

Originally Posted by Naunet

Well, certainly with that attitude, consumers will never get a deal that's good for them. I'm sure the companies love you and people like you, though, who are willing to accept every little extra charge they throw at you.

It's a matter of picking and choosing your fights. I unsubed from wow when they released the level 90 character boost. I did not like what blizzard did; yet I understood why they did it. I left because it was not palatable to me and I was not bitter at Blizzard for trying to make more money. It's what companies do and SE is not going to lose many subscribers over a dollar retainer. SE will likely get a revenue bump from the side service. Also, in all honesty, you have to be a severe hoarder to need a third retainer. I don't imagine many people NEEDING a third retainer.


If you want to plant your feet in the ground over a dollar for extra storage space, go ahead. Just seems like a lot of effort for a tiny insignificant addition SE is adding their game service.

Originally Posted by Razzle

When I first saw the Mog Station website I knew it was going downhill, behind that cute little moogle logo stands a marketing plan to get more cash on top of a sub fee. Under services there is "coming soon", am I the only one not wishing to find out what is "coming soon"? lol

Give fantasia as a quest reward? As a seal exchange? As a rare drop? As a treasure hunt? Why pay on top of a monthly fee for that?

Sadly the days of paying 100% p2p are gone or close to that. These days we have developers develop 100% of a game, but only realeasing 50% of it and then after some weeks release the other X2 25% as a "DLC" for more money, with the rest "coming soon".

You can't buy a 100% game and be done with it these days.

Sounds like you don't know how publishing budgets work...