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    Doo's Avatar
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    Buster Posey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post

    As said, even XI does it and they did it recently with bonus item codes to "test the water" and it went over well and no one really complained because it only offered an "advantage" up until level 30.
    Being able to pay for extra stuff always goes well because so many love to RMT already hence so many gil spammers.

    Then they justify by saying "If it means faster content and better quality, then I'm ok with it!" In reality they just want to p2w.
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    Last edited by Doo; 03-20-2014 at 12:30 AM.

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    Nyaano Nohea
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    See? Everyone who said "SE AND FFXIV WILL NEVER HAVE MICROTRANSACTIONS!" honestly don't keep up with any interviews when Yoshi straight up said the mog station is being setup for that and even back in 1.0 buying additional retainer's via an extra fee was going to happen.
    Is subscription fee a microtransaction?
    Is an optional additional fee charged a microtransaction, that we don't even know if it's recurring or onetime?

    Microtransactions to me are when you pay a miniscule amount of money for some item, and can do that whenever you want as many times as you want.
    Paying for extra bullets in some mobile phone game... that's microtransaction. These retainers... I can't fit them under the microtransaction umbrella...
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    Owain Hyatt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    Is subscription fee a microtransaction?
    Is an optional additional fee charged a microtransaction, that we don't even know if it's recurring or onetime?

    Microtransactions to me are when you pay a miniscule amount of money for some item, and can do that whenever you want as many times as you want.
    Paying for extra bullets in some mobile phone game... that's microtransaction. These retainers... I can't fit them under the microtransaction umbrella...
    Unfortunately, we don't know if it's recurring or not, but honestly, I'd prefer it that way. That way it'd feel more like a sub and less like a rotten business model.
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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    Is subscription fee a microtransaction?
    Is an optional additional fee charged a microtransaction, that we don't even know if it's recurring or onetime?

    Microtransactions to me are when you pay a miniscule amount of money for some item, and can do that whenever you want as many times as you want.
    Paying for extra bullets in some mobile phone game... that's microtransaction. These retainers... I can't fit them under the microtransaction umbrella...
    You can define it in multipple ways - In general it's for paying for extra services not offered by the base price. DLC's are microtransaction because you're buying additional content or usually "bonus" items for an additional fee not in your $40-$70 game purchase.

    It's usually tied to P2W/F2P games but it exists everywhere, it just has a negative connotation when it comes to certain groups and SE is notorious for it lately lol.
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    This whole thing wouldn't be an issue if paid retainers were simply ONLY for storage space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valendred View Post
    This whole thing wouldn't be an issue if paid retainers were simply ONLY for storage space.
    We don't know yet if the ventures are available for these extra retainers... Or even if they can sell on the market board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    We don't know yet if the ventures are available for these extra retainers... Or even if they can sell on the market board.
    That's true. And I'm extremely hopeful that that is the case.
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    Syn Pestilence
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    I have no problem when there is a charge for services(name change,race change,server transfer etc) when you pay a sub.Anything else you should get with your sub imo.I dont like when companies double dip but understand they are in business to make max profit.Like someone else said the days of sub only are pretty much dead.
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    Eisen Gramul
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    Hyperion
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    This was the original plan they had in 1.0.
    I never particularly cared for it myself, but as long as I can still put most of my rare stuff in the wardrobe, I can manage the rest of my items.
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    Cloudcroft Ieyasu
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    Goblin
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    Not sure why people are complaining.... There was a similar micro from FFXI. One extra retainer isn't going to help you down the next set of coils. Even if they came to you fully max leveled, the venture system isn't going to give you an advantage on the market where everything is already undercut. QQ about something that's worth fixing.
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