Thread: 2.2 Retainers via Microtransactions

Originally Posted by Skyhound

The second issue is more of a gray area. Can these retainers sell to the MB? The MB largely limited by the inventory space of the retainer. If you can buy more retainers that can sell to the MB, that is an advantage. As a business owner IRL myself, I can tell you that is 100% an advantage and would be P2W. If you can only sell 50 items, but the next guy can sell 100 items then the next guy is going to end up making more money than you.

After 157 posts, someone touches the damage that can happen. What can happen is someone can throw down money to instantly have many more market sale slots. This gives this seller an advantage over sellers who don't buy more as the person with the most slots can then buy up and corner the market on certain items then control the price because they have a monopoly. Two things would happen then: 1) Only the really rich can buy the better items and the average player is locked out. (I was there in the early days of FFXI when you couldn't buy potions except for insane prices on the market) 2) The economy on the server would be highly unbalanced and SE would have to put in another huge money sync like the original prices of housing.

There are people who play MMOs to win at the business side of the game and this would be P2W for them since their goal is to get as much money as they can and/or control the economy.

Originally Posted by RavinousKurohi

After 157 posts, someone touches the damage that can happen. What can happen is someone can throw down money to instantly have many more market sale slots. This gives this seller an advantage over sellers who don't buy more as the person with the most slots can then buy up and corner the market on certain items then control the price because they have a monopoly. Two things would happen then: 1) Only the really rich can buy the better items and the average player is locked out. (I was there in the early days of FFXI when you couldn't buy potions except for insane prices on the market) 2) The economy on the server would be highly unbalanced and SE would have to put in another huge money sync like the original prices of housing.

How is this any different from creating a second character or third or fourth and just lvl up to the point u got retainer???

Originally Posted by Xellos2099

How is this any different from creating a second character or third or fourth and just lvl up to the point u got retainer???

It's not any different, considering you have to pay a higher monthly sub to get access to more than one character. More money = more retainers in both cases.

Originally Posted by MurakumoMillennium

It's not any different, considering you have to pay a higher monthly sub to get access to more than one character. More money = more retainers in both cases.

Collector edition have access to 8 character per server with no extra fee..

And seriously, stuff do not sell..... for the past 2 week i am selling the same 8 item because of constant undercutting

Originally Posted by Doo

Is convenience a form of P2W?

No, it really isn't. I'm honestly amazed people are going this crazy over being able to do the equivalent of buying more bank slots. It's not a massive game-changer, if you actually NEED that much storage space, you're either a packrat or you don't spend nearly as much time sorting, discarding, and selling stored items as you should be.

Admittedly, I'm going to be purchasing probably one more retainer, but that's mainly just because, well, I'm a bit of a packrat. Particularly when it comes to equipment sets and weapons that I find interesting. However, not everybody is like me, and so they obviously won't be buying the extra retainer slots. If people buy the extra retainers specifically for more Ventures per day, that's fine, they can do that. It's essentially the same as buying Treasure Maps off the market board to get past the restrictions on acquiring maps.