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    that moment people realize p2p only means that you pay to play it nothing more. cash shops are part of all games be it f2p p2p or console games. paying to play a game never meant you get everything in game it just meant you have to pay to play it.

    yep posted it here to cause it's still funny xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    that moment people realize p2p only means that you pay to play it nothing more. cash shops are part of all games be it f2p p2p or console games. paying to play a game never meant you get everything in game it just meant you have to pay to play it.

    yep posted it here to cause it's still funny xD
    That attitude is what brought us the "amazing" DLCs in single player games (including day one DLCs), for instance. And we all know how good the vast majority of them are in regards to quality & content VS price. It's sad to see all MMOs going that route too, including this one that looked promising in that regard.

    There was a time when people had some standards regarding games, both when developing them and when buying them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    That attitude is what brought us the "amazing" DLCs in single player games (including day one DLCs), for instance. And we all know how good the vast majority of them are in regards to quality & content VS price. It's sad to see all MMOs going that route too, including this one that looked promising in that regard.

    There was a time when people had some standards regarding games, both when developing them and when buying them.
    standards change, there is nothing wrong with dlc or cash shops they help fund the games and companys you so hold dear but it's nice to know you couldn't care less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    standards change, there is nothing wrong with dlc or cash shops they help fund the games and companys you so hold dear but it's nice to know you couldn't care less.
    The $15 per month I already pay helps fund the game I hold dear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    The $15 per month I already pay helps fund the game I hold dear.
    Get over it. Games have microtransactions now. WoW got away with being P2P and having a cash shop and now other companies are following the trend. These companies are businesses and they want to make money. If you don't like it, leave. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

    It's just an extra retainer. One less coffee from starbucks a month can buy you four extra retainers. QQ more when there is something worth complaining about, like a boosted character to level cap for $50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    The $15 per month I already pay helps fund the game I hold dear.
    doesn't sound like it to me, all you're spouting is i deserve everything i pay a flat fee how dare they try to make more money to make more content for a game i supposedly like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    The $15 per month I already pay helps fund the game I hold dear.
    Look on the bright side, at least you pay a lot less when it goes f2p.

    Unless you're like the many that gets addicted to buying vanity stuff or someone that rmts already. Then again, your money gets you a lot less than a P2P game.
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    Last edited by Doo; 03-20-2014 at 10:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Even if it was known since 2010 that we can someday get an extra retainer for 1$/month?
    Lots of things changed since 2010. I don't think that I've to tell you the whole story.

    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    standards change, there is nothing wrong with dlc or cash shops they help fund the games and companys you so hold dear but it's nice to know you couldn't care less.
    Actually, because I care I say that. To give you an example, I really liked BioWare but they eventually took some decisions that made some of their games not really up to the standards that they always holded highly. That disappointed a lot of people in the process, and hurted the name of the company to the point that they had to adapt and make a move. Even then, the trust that they had is not the same as it was before, and they'll have to regain people's faith in the future. Standards might change, but when they're unjustified they're usually bad changes.

    Companies have to get money after all, that's one of the main reasons why they exist. But there's a limit to what some of us can accept in regards to the hard balance between greed and good will. That's why EA and ActiVision aren't the most loved of the publishers out there, and the same can be said about other companies like Nexon and Co. The situation here regarding retainers is one of these changes that seem uncalled for, besides for pure greed. And some of us don't really understand the change and hope that SE listens (as they've done in the past).
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    Companies have to get money after all, that's one of the main reasons why they exist. But there's a limit to what some of us can accept in regards to the hard balance between greed and good will. That's why EA and ActiVision aren't the most loved of the publishers out there, and the same can be said about other companies like Nexon and Co. The situation here regarding retainers is one of these changes that seem uncalled for, besides for pure greed. And some of us don't really understand the change and hope that SE listens (as they've done in the past).[/QUOTE]

    I honestly don;t see the big deal.... back in xi we has to pay extra dollar for every mule and garden mule, how is it any different?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    Lots of things changed since 2010. I don't think that I've to tell you the whole story.
    Yes, but it was never exactly out of plan.

    Retainers
    As before, and until the release of Version 2.0, players will be entitled to employ two Retainers at no charge.

    Read up on the details of FINAL FANTASY XIV Version 2.0.
    * The fee structure for after the release of FINAL FANTASY XIV Version 2.0 (including those of retainers) is unconfirmed at the time of writing.
    http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...yopemeopw.html
    This was from december 2011 before they started the p2p. Like you can see here, they keep the possibility to sell extra retainers after 2.0 launch.
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