2.2 Retainers via Microtransactions

**rhemi1** · 03-20-2014 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by Xellos2099

I do not like microtransaction as well but think of it this way. If you are given a choice of NEVER able to changing your character appearance and never have more retainer slot or have a "choice" of paying to made them available, i am sure majority of the population will ops for the later. NOW if SE start selling power then we got problems to be concern about.

I'd actually prefer the option that lets me unlock these features in-game via a quest-line, drop, craft, or currency gate. For a sub based game, the options for stuff like this should never be, "Real cash or nothing."

**Seif** · 03-20-2014 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by rhemi1

I'd actually prefer the option that lets me unlock these features in-game via a quest-line, drop, craft, or currency gate. For a sub based game, the options for stuff like this should never be, "Real cash or nothing."

This. And we have paid for this product development that they are selling us.

Also to some of us this IS 100% p2w solution. I for one am using 100% capacity of the mb at all times. To some players playing the economy = playing the game.

It's completely unacceptable no matter how you look at it.

What's next? Leve refresh boosters and weekly ct limit lifting items?
All of this is stuff that is taken from the pockets of paying customers. Meaning we're all being robbed. The fact that it's "micro robbery" dosen't change the fact that it's still teft.

From marketing perspective they're completely tarnishing their reputation for mere pennies.

**Starlord** · 03-20-2014 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Seif

This. And we have paid for this product development that they are selling us.

Also to some of us this IS 100% p2w solution. I for one am using 100% capacity of the mb at all times. To some players playing the economy = playing the game.

It's completely unacceptable no matter how you look at it.

What's next? Leve refresh boosters and weekly ct limit lifting items?
All of this is stuff that is taken from the pockets of paying customers. Meaning we're all being robbed. The fact that it's "micro robbery" dosen't change the fact that it's still teft.

From marketing perspective they're completely tarnishing their reputation for mere pennies.

Some people are looking waaaaaaaaaaay to deep into this for only a simple storage unit :/.

**Xellos2099** · 03-20-2014 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Seif

This. And we have paid for this product development that they are selling us.

Also to some of us this IS 100% p2w solution. I for one am using 100% capacity of the mb at all times. To some players playing the economy = playing the game.

It's completely unacceptable no matter how you look at it.

What's next? Leve refresh boosters and weekly ct limit lifting items?
All of this is stuff that is taken from the pockets of paying customers. Meaning we're all being robbed. The fact that it's "micro robbery" dosen't change the fact that it's still teft.

From marketing perspective they're completely tarnishing their reputation for mere pennies.

That is sellling power, which is not the case atm.

**Seif** · 03-20-2014 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Xellos2099

That is sellling power, which is not the case atm.

How is basically selling gil not selling power?!

With the ability to buy hq gear for esch class all the way to 50 is by far the biggest change to balance this game has ever had.

**ErikMynhier** · 03-20-2014 02:50 AM

Its not like they're charging cash for your Zenith weapon. Nothing like a mmo crowd to overreact to everything. I'm jazzed to get third retainer. I keep my stuff real organized, one holds my equipment and the other holds my gathered mats and crafted items. A third one would let me split the crafted items and gathered mats.

**Gramul** · 03-20-2014 02:56 AM

Yeah. This isn't quite P2W. But it starts a slippery slope I hope they avoid.

**ReplicaX** · 03-20-2014 03:05 AM

"More retainers via micro transactions" aka Additional/Optional retainers beyond your standard two, require a fee.

**Sotek** · 03-20-2014 03:14 AM

So it begins... At the end of the day Square Enix is a company, just like any other. Naturally they'd try to get more money out of this by adding microtransactions as well. They're testing the water with something like extra Retainers, but if that's successful you can bet they'll do more. Can see this working real well with the new Retainer Ventures too. Want to get ahead in that? Buy a few extra Retainers, no wonder these are coming in the same patch.

Terrible move, pay to play should not have microtransactions. Period. Those bonuses for subscribing were nice, this is absolutely terrible. At best they've gotten this whole thing backwards. You pay to move server. You should pay to change your appearance. You should pay to get 50 free teleports. What should you get for continuing to subscribe? Extra Retainers. Anyone who has been playing for a while likely needs the extra space. Someone who just has $ to burn? They're just going to abuse the system and cause harm to the games economy, but what does Square Enix care? They get a heap of money out of such a short sighted move.

Guess Retainer Ventures really will be crashing the games economy though. Anyone with their moms credit card can now get a bulk amount of Retainers and go from 7 Apkallu Eggs per hour to 70.

**Doo** · 03-20-2014 03:17 AM

Do you think players that are in favor of cash shops are rmters?

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