Incrase the penalty for leaving a dungeon

[KrissKringle]

I've found it merely impossible to get into any of the new dungeons, specifically Haukke Manor Hard, Copperbell Mines Hard, or Pharos Siruius without a member raging about how gear is too low, even the the average level is 5+ levels above the recommended level. I've been playing this game for a long time and I created a new account on a new server and it's near impossible to play the recommended dungeons without being harassed by someone before a buff is even cast. People will gear check and if it's not up to their standards they leave immediately, and because of this there needs to be a more severe penalty for people who drop out early, even when the gear level of the members in quest is 5+ levels higher than the recommended Duty Finder requirement.

[chococo]

I haven't tried it with lower ilv but to be honest, I think recommended ilv+5 is still quite difficult for these dungeons. DPS checks are quite hard imo.

[OPneedNerfs]

Here's what they'll do instead: take off all equips, pull mobs, wipe party till you all initiate vote kick. Then said player gets nothing lost, not even a lockout timer.

[CUTS3R]

Here's what they'll do instead: take off all equips, pull mobs, wipe party.

Thats what i used to do before the "Vote abandon" feature was in game. :P

When you see your DF party isnt gonna be able to clear this instance, or will take em the whole timer to figure it out, i was, after the 3rd wipe or so, pulling to the group over and over until someone eventually ragequit. ( Was mostly doing it on primals, almost never did in dungeons )

Douchey you would say, right?
Well not really.
Why was i doing this rather than leaving? Because i shouldn't be taking the penalty because i get grouped with a bunch of f*ckwits telling you to STFU or simply don't even care to read the chatlog when you try to explain em ( nicely first ) what they were doing wrong or the fight mechanics.

[Purrfectstorm]

If anything I think the timer should be lowered or removed. I think forcing players to play together who don't want to (regardless of the reason) is just going to wind up unfun for everyone.

Plus, players can circumvent the 30 min timer by going AFK and making you vote-kick them. It feels like a really dumb system and you can be hit with the penalty for something as silly as a DC. Since almost everything in the game is instanced, the 30 min timer basically says that this game you're playing to have fun, well forget about that. Suddenly you can't help FC mates, you can't join groups that better mesh with your needs (for you that would be people that don't give you grief about your gear and for them it would be people that have better gear).

It sucks that people have been jerks about your gear but wouldn't you rather play with people who aren't going to give you grief about it anyway? I'd prefer it if people didn't insist that SE devise a system that forces people to play with people who they don't want to play with. Games should be fun. For everyone.

[Zumi]

I noticed a lot of people will be like "afk kick me" when they don't want to do a run.

[Thorauku]

I noticed a lot of people will be like "afk kick me" when they don't want to do a run.

Or don't want to kick me? I'll just logout (not leave) and let the auto-kick function do the job. Ta-da! No penalty for me.

[Tlamila]

I noticed a lot of people will be like "afk kick me" when they don't want to do a run.

This. I think penality for leaving is big enough, but I think there should also be one for when you get kicked. I noticed it's a trend now in CT, when someone doesn't get their loot they want to jerk leave but without penality so say "kick me" and if the group refuses they afk or harrass for the rest of the run.

As for Pharos I think they should just take it out of roulette since it doesn't compare at all with the others avalaible <.< HM ones though...I don't see why people quit in them, they're so easy o.o I actually failed AK in pugs lately, cause it seems to be the target of incompetents, but the HM ones never...

[mmcsky]

This would be nice against people who do it purpose, but what about those that for example, have an emergency?

I say this, because today I was tanking a Garuda EX, and something happened IRL that i had to pull out of the game and help out someone in my family. I, of course, had to turn off my game and attend to my life, It would have been a real shame if I came back and I was stuck with a giant penalty due to circumstances that I could not possibly avoid.

[Lecreuset]

well.. there's just a lot of elitists out there(we already know that because of the whine threads about accidental nerf on t5 that was fixed right away). I've failed Pharos Sirius first boss a lot of times in a Duty Roulette with everyone ilvl 88+ because the other dps thinks he can just burn the boss and ignore adds, especially if this other dps hits really hard like BLM.. I think I saw 7 dogs at one point. It's funny how really good gear can work against you on that boss since the adds spawn by the boss' hp % I think. You get overrun so fast if you ignore them.