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    Is Black Mage actually good for any of the Extreme Primals? I don't think I've met a single BLM that impressed me in any of the zillion EX runs I've done.

    (in before "b-but plumes in 'ruda!")

    I'd much rather have a SMN, more bards or even all-melee for EXs, tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tua View Post
    Is Black Mage actually good for any of the Extreme Primals? I don't think I've met a single BLM that impressed me in any of the zillion EX runs I've done.

    (in before "b-but plumes in 'ruda!")

    I'd much rather have a SMN, more bards or even all-melee for EXs, tbh.
    Too bad we are on a different server .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tua View Post
    Is Black Mage actually good for any of the Extreme Primals? I don't think I've met a single BLM that impressed me in any of the zillion EX runs I've done.
    You just haven't met with a potent BLM. Those that can pull 300+ DPS for Twintania fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by P_Wing View Post
    SMN can leave dots at nails, but careless attacks can make the stacks go high due to later nails are destroyed too fast, so I guess BLM and BRD are easier and safer to play there.

    Just my viewpoint as BLM, though. You can say I'm biased
    Totally agree on this. SMN can be dangerous in Ifrit nail phase. What i usually do is to dot up nails counter clockwise and make sure to only dot those that have full health. When my target overlaps with those that my team members are hitting, i proceed to join them and dps normally. This is to ensure nail stack doesn't go high suddenly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcusow86 View Post
    Totally agree on this. SMN can be dangerous in Ifrit nail phase. What i usually do is to dot up nails counter clockwise and make sure to only dot those that have full health. When my target overlaps with those that my team members are hitting, i proceed to join them and dps normally. This is to ensure nail stack doesn't go high suddenly.
    DoTs OP lol.

    Reminded me of a fight where we had 3 bards inside, all the bards spread windbite all over the place, and we ended up wiped because the nails died one after another like domino effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcusow86 View Post
    You just haven't met with a potent BLM. Those that can pull 300+ DPS for Twintania fight.
    I haven't, and that's what's bothering me. To me BLM seems great in dungeons and T4/T5, but I can't really think of any EX fight where I'd go aww yiss a blm. I mainly spend my evenings doing EXs for the funsies, and PF BLMs on my server rarely break 200.

    BLM is next on my leveling list though once I'm done with WAR . I just can't think of any EX fight where I'd want/need to spec BLM instead of any other available dps class. I'm sure there's neat tricks and awesome burst windows where good BLM can really shine, but looking at the class from outside it feels like they're the gimp class in EXes.
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    Dragoon is my opinion, and not just because i main one. Burst damage is a fantastic plus to have, and dragoons bring that to the table. On top of that DRG buff BRD dps, and they, in turn, buff the healers/dps of the raid. DRG is naturally tough,having high defense on their armour and comes with enmity dump, good parry CD, good AoE when needed.

    In my opinion this is my ideal DPS comp in a 2/2/4 setup:

    DRG/BLM/BRD/(SMN,MNK)

    #2 in my books is BRD as they make fights somewhat more forgiving via songs.
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    Monks are crap and they will keep crap ... the best dps combination is DRG/BLM/BRD/SMN. SE needs to remove the Monk in this game, he is a worthless class
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    In term of utility, usefulness, and need it is most definitely the Bard. One Bard per static is enough and stacking them is not a good idea (stacking in general). You can afford not to have a MNK, DRG, BLM or SMN in your static but every group needs a Bard. They are just too good and offer a lot. Matter of fact an excellent Bard benefit the group more than any other DD job.

    The hard part is finding that one good bard to be in your static, I had to go through nine of them before I found an excellent bard, but he was damn worth it as he made the entire group life in every single fight much easier and better.
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    SMN. If needed you can quick res one of the healers and they can res the other. Although nothing annoys me more than a SMN who doesn't micromanage properly
    BRD. Always welcome for songs/support
    BLM. Love it when my SMN gets paired up with a good BLM in DF, everything just melts.
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    Most Useful Classes Are SMN and BRD IMO, With SMN slightly ahead in my book.

    SMN
    - In Battle REZ
    - AOE Bind for 20 Sec
    - Eye for an Eye
    - Blind
    - Heavy
    - Super Virus
    - Wicked AoE DPS (Dots+Contagion+Shadow Flare+MiasmaII+Enkindle+Aeriel Slash+ Blizzard = Death For All)
    - Wicked Single Target DPS( 1300+ Festers Crits )

    BRDs
    - Healers Best Friend
    - Mobile
    - Silencer
    - Only Class with 100% DPS Uptime
    - Great AoE DPS
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    Tanks be Like....


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