The number of bad players are rising!

[Zhi]

You "good" players should thank us "bad" players: our existence allows you to feel so special and so cool because you are (or consider yourself) good at playing a computer game, though you may be less skilled at other human endeavours, like school, work or communicating with people

the edge is sharp

[blacksheepwall]

I'm still quite new to this game and have only recently got into coil, but I've put lots of time into researching and practicing on dummies ect. I think you owe it to the other people to at least have a basic understanding of your class.

I was in T2 farm group the other day with a fellow BLM and their rotation was fire 1 until mana out, blizz 1 until full and repeat. Then they died instantly on ADS, then again when rezzed. It was pitiful to watch and annoyed me throughout. People like this should be banned for harassment.

I don't consider myself an elitist as I'm fairly new and at the bottom of the food chain myself, but then again I don't consider it elitist to expect others to make the minimum effort to learn their job.

[Amberion]

The elitist feel like they are that special snowflake or something. And that is how you get threads like these:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...cool-1.0-stuff!

I don't know why they feel so entitled.

So you think it's elitist to be upset when S-E breaks their word? They did state that the items would not be available in ARR.

[SeekerScorpio]

So you think it's elitist to be upset when S-E breaks their word? They did state that the items would not be available in ARR.

That's why stupid casuals like clown shoes you quoted fall into that category I referenced in this thread or the bad trend thread earlier that casuals make up the worse excuses and insults. What you mentioned in reference able, his self entitled belief wanted to spew opinions to justify his needing what everyone else has even though said people earned it through special or past events (note I started on ARR and a bit later into it and I have no problem with 1.0 items only). Casuals are starting to remind me too much like communists.

[HeroSamson]

Why is it that good players are always expected to teach bad players?

I actually tried two days ago, their response went like this.

Me: Don't pull hate if we already have skeleton on other platform bring it back so that they aren't close to the dragon.

Them: Back OFF I know what I am doing.

Me: But you wiped us last time doing same thing.

His gf/wife or whatever: Shut up do your own damn job we don't need help you don't wanna piss off a girl.

needless to say I don't feel like helping sometimes because of this.

[SeekerScorpio]

I actually tried two days ago, their response went like this.

Me: Don't pull hate if we already have skeleton on other platform bring it back so that they aren't close to the dragon.

Them: Back OFF I know what I am doing.

Me: But you wiped us last time doing same thing.

His gf/wife or whatever: Shut up do your own damn job we don't need help you don't wanna piss off a girl.

needless to say I don't feel like helping sometimes because of this.

Honestly, I would have ripped the Gf/wife in half after that statement. She should have minded her own business and let her stupid husband get the repercussions for not doing his job right. These combo players think they can speak for each other, lets see her do that at his workplace when he screws up there too. See how far he gets promotion and/or job stability wise.

[Barboron]

It's not just bad players in this community, but players expect so much to be given to them that the community as a whole just seems quite bad. Yes, there are quite a lot of good, and nice players out there. However, when you join a Farm Party and someone makes one simple mistakes, knows where they went wrong, and how to do it again without making a mistake but yet people rage and quit, as they expect people to make perfect every time and anything less isn't worth playing with.

But yes, there are plenty of bad players. I think it coming across as quite casual may encourage players who are not quite used to the in depth mechanics (compared to offline games) to play well.

[Doo]

needless to say I don't feel like helping sometimes because of this.

That's my whole point but I must of got quoted for that line like 50 times in this thread when I already explained it pretty well. I think people just want to earn forum cookie points or something. Most of them probably don't even practice what they preach.

[Ceons]

All so quick to judge and point fingers. "But THOSE players... THE *insert descriptive insult here* players it's all their fault, all them. Followed by what everyone should do.

lol

Like out of everyone who posted here with almost 300 posts in this thread they are all such good helpful people who have never ever had a bad day or a misunderstanding and said been to someone else the *insert descriptive insult here* player.

Get off your high and mighty chairs, stop calling people rude, bad, elitist, self entitled, casual, new or whatever. :/ It's no better to point fingers and fail to see the bigger picture. For a change, go to the game and be nice to someone. After all what goes around comes around.

Want a good community? Be the change you want to see...

ok now I'm done with sappy speeches

[Truefaith87]

A big issue I see a lot of is that as soon as you offer any form of advice, they put up the defensive wall and take it as an insult. Ask them to cast a single different spell one time? They fly off the handle and cuss you out. Ask a healer to start heals just a split second sooner? They tell you to tank/dps better and not take as much damage. Those defenses are what cause issues like this to arise. I'm no saint myself, didn't even remember how to do some of the guildhest I get put into lately. Some low level explains it to me, that's something he/she deserves a commendation for, at the very least. People just need to relax and stop being so overly defensive about things, and be willing to try something new. How i learned to play SMN correctly, because I was botching it so bad, I couldn't get above healers emnity on simple fights, even with a relic on.

TL;DR version: Be a bit more open minded is all. You just might be surprised at what you can learn, from both new and old.