The number of bad players are rising!

[ispano]

See! This is exactly the attitude of the elitist. There are NOT a lot bad players. The casual player are not bad players. So what if they don't know their rotations. Heck they are so busy trying to dodge stuff they can't keep up their rotations. It takes a lot of practice to get good at dodging the stuff and doing the rotations, and even more so to tank or heal and do all that. There is nothing wrong with the echo buff and more echo buff, players have limited time, and there is NO GOOD reason to force them to get stuck.

The less experienced player, lower-geared players, players with less time, can't know what they don't know. And it false to assume they do NOT want to improve. Granted that there will always be jerks, some of which will snap back and get defensive, when given advice that isn't always sugar coated, but to assume they do NOT want to improve or step up a tiny bit is just totally BS. The better geared and more experienced players have to make up the shortcomings of the group because they are the only ones with capacity to do so, when they refuse to do so, they become the elitists, because they feel they are their special snowflake, and want to fracture the community and punish the noobs.

And this is where you're wrong, there ARE "bad" players. I'm not conflating casual with bad either. I'm talking about the ones who refuse to improve for the good of the group and such, because they DO exist.

You've basically made yourself out to be as bad if not worse than the people you claim to be elitist. If someone is in a group and isn't as "good" as the others, and refuses to TRY. And yes, most people CAN do better than they do, it's a rarity they cannot. They just CHOOSE, whether it be conscious or subconscious, not to. It's because they see the game as something that doesn't deserve or require effort, they choose to put themselves in that position. When I was new to MMOs and in groups, and I was under performing, I looked at what I was doing, I thought about it and I forced myself to do better. I didn't say "I'm doing my best!" because I already knew that was false simply because I was holding people back. And here's the kicker, people who are willing to do that, aren't typically called bad.

It's a choice people make, and i'm sorry, expecting people to carry them, yes that's what you're saying, is wrong.