The number of bad players are rising!

[kidvideo]

I have been fate atma farming & see summoners only casting Ruin or Ruin II... sometimes both. That ALL the rotation they use. smh

[Doo]

If that's your way of thinking, don't expect to finish the next roullette you do with three new players.

Dungeons are so straight forward that most of the time it doesn't even take much.

a lot of people still can't do T4 even with the echo buff.

I've beaten it in DF one shot to two shot it most of the time. Only once I didn't because the healer asked to be kicked after second failed try.

[Luxx]

not sure if just bad players, but some ppl lack patience. do not use DF for speed runs...ppl say this a million times.
if soeone says their new...DONT RUSH it. or just leave :/
ppl must learn in this game: we are humans and we're bound to make mistakes.

i ran qarn, my fc mem and the brd was new, the tank hero rushed shxt and got insta killed by bees. i did was swift rez
and tried to use it. he died, clicked as fast as he could and left. the brd said he was new, but i had forgot to say to kill the bee's. [since i ran it may times.]
we were very lucky to get a very nice tank that explained the mechanics to them, and i helped out. a few wipes, but we had fun at the end
you must learn patience ppl. stop have the high expectations and assume folks know what to do right off the bat..
sometimes a few wipes are fun, you actually start communicating with your teammates and overall have a fun run at the end.
^^

sadly some ppl cant so they chew your ass out and insult you to the ground. this community is bad at times ...

[ColorOfSakura]

I always thought when you get better, you have more fun. I.E It's more fun to be able to kill Titan ex than not. When you put in work say playing basketball and get good at it or any sports, you have more fun. Games tend to work that way.

I don't exactly agree with this.

I honestly have a lot more fun with more of the low level content than high level content (with some exceptions). I'm good at what I do, but I enjoy relaxing rather than stressing out over getting screamed at by jerks because I happened to make one mistake (which happens, even with good players.)

There's a difference between being a bad player, being a player who is learning, and being a good player who isn't perfect. I shouldn't have to feel terrified to make mistakes in later instances that I might not know perfectly. Too many people in this game expect perfection from people out of the gate. I shouldn't see people get vote kicked from Castrum or Praetorium on their first run through simply because they had to take a quick bathroom break before a boss. I shouldn't see people getting kicked from dungeons that they said at the beginning that they're new and learning the mechanics.

[NinjaTaru72]

That's like my first time in vigil, as sch I had one other new person with me (dps) and knew nothing. I asked if the tank or other dps had been here before Dps was silent Tank said "yeah a while. Ago". And never said anything for the first 2 bosses even when asked. First boss no info from ether of them I learned it on the fly no deaths, though both dps kept taking the aoe shot. At the end of the 2nd boss of which I managed to keep tank and one dps alive by some crazy godsend, I mentioned "any advice is more than welcome, because that was crazy" to which I got "you kept me alive, it's all good" from the tank. Last boss learned on the fly again. Beat it with one Dps missing. But was intense.

[NinjaTaru72]

But the Dps, nether the new or experienced one, learned to dodge the first 2 bosses. And the tank was... Of very little help.

[Velo_Vandore]

NinjaTaru72, it could be that the tank wasn't completely sure of the best tactics to use either, hence "Yeah, a while ago".

Also, consider that some people prefer to learn the tactics on the fly as you did, and would consider too much assistance before the first try to be a spoiler for the encounter. As you actually didn't wipe even once I'm not surprised that no advice was being given out as it clearly wasn't needed. If your tank was holding back advice, it could just be that he had enough faith in your ability to not hold your hand, but may have offered suggestions after a wipe.

I wouldn't consider any of the players you've descried as bad.

[Gormogon]

There's no IQ and Skill requirement to play the game. If you don't like grouping with "those" types of players make your own party via party finder with said requirements.

[Aikaal]

Why is it that good players are always expected to teach bad players?

I don't know. Why a sport manager hires an old veteran when he has a club of youngters. Maybe he's expecting him to teach the new players in need.

[ispano]

I don't know. Why a sport manager hires an old veteran when he has a club of youngters. Maybe he's expecting him to teach the new players in need.

Hire? I thought most people here don't want to treat it like a job? As for people volunteering to do said work, they're already volunteering to do it. But, yes, when you pay someone to deal with that type of thing, of course you expect it. When you expect him to teach EVERYONE that's new to the sport in question, just because, there's a problem.