The number of bad players are rising!

[PArcher]

You'll get taken advantage by players that are lazy and looking for a carry.

Wait...don't the "elite" sell carries already, and are just waiting for Coil to go to the DF to do the same there?

Carries create bad players by giving them wins without teaching the content.

Teaching people the content =/= carry. Its giving people the tools to improve.

As for people looking for carries...those are the PFs that have ridiculous iLv requirements for the content (over i80 for T1-4 and EX primals, over i70 for Titan HM, etc)

[SummonerSenah]

Why is it that good players are always expected to teach bad players?

Because good players whine about bad players? If you're not going to help, that's your prerogative, but don't turn around and complain about it. That's like people complaining about the president when they didn't even vote. If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem.

[KyroeFelix]

I have compassion for players that put effort into things or are super nice if they know they aren't that good but I don't think it should be expected that good players help bad ones. You'll get taken advantage by players that are lazy and looking for a carry.

I have compassion for people who struggle but still ask questions, try their hardest, and look up information on the internet.
I have no compassion for the guy not saying anything, is playing horribly, and holds back the rest of the group.
If I die in any game, first thing I do is check logs to see what killed me. If nothing is there, I ask my group.
No answer? Well its not like every game in existence doesn't have some sort of online community for discussion/FAQs/Guides.
I haven't played a video game in which I am the only one who has experienced an issue and there has been no answer for it online.

Compassion isn't conditional; either you want to help someone just because, or you don't. Like I said, some players have it, others don't. I can tell when people aren't putting forth an effort; when they haven't prepared for content; but that doesn't mean I won't say anything to help them. All that does is hurt yourself in the end. If you can explain a fight or recommend food buffs or a different rotation for their class, why wouldn't you? If helping someone improve really ruins your gaming experience, I'm sorry. If I can help someone, I will. I don't expect every other player to act the same way; that is ridiculous.

[Sylve]

Nice yes, but obligated? No.




Believe it or not I'm a helpful guy with a good reputation. Like 200+ of those commendations thingies. I just don't like how players make it sound like you should help everyone like it's obligatory. You get taken advantage of that way, I'm more selective in who I help and when to give it.

And i freely give advice to anyone whom i see struggling. They can take it and do better, or ignore me and do what they were doing. I'm just not selective about who i try to help.

[Doo]

If helping someone improve really ruins your gaming experience, I'm sorry.

It depends on what I'm trying to do. Sometimes teaching is an all night affair while I'm trying to get things done.

[Doo]

If helping someone improve really ruins your gaming experience, I'm sorry.

It depends on what I'm trying to do. Sometimes teaching is an all night affair while I'm trying to get things done.

And i freely give advice to anyone whom i see struggling. They can take it and do better, or ignore me and do what they were doing. I'm just not selective about who i try to help.

But I am selective. It's obvious when a player makes no real effort to learn then I feel like why should I spend time to help someone that doesn't help himself? Like players that wear level 5 gear in a level 30 raid.

My whole point was that players make it out like helping is some kind of OBLIGATION which as a person who helps out often, I think is wrong.

[Sylve]

It depends on what I'm trying to do. Sometimes teaching is an all night affair while I'm trying to get things done.

Get things done ... like? Capping Tomes doesn't take long. Capping dailies takes even less time and helps with the former.

Maybe I'm just weird to enjoy the time i spend just playing the game, regardless of the outcome >_>

[Sessurea]

I feel bad when I see players who know what to do but cannot do it. When I see people like this, who are actually trying, I give them my 100% effort to help them through it. And if they still can't get through it I feel more bad for them, not make a thread on the damn forum.

Don't get me wrong though, I have no sympathy for people who refuse to read guides, who don't admit they don't know something at the start of a run etc. And I despise people who remain there silent, causing wpe after wipe, when you are there in their face offering to help, but no, silence....

[WendyDarling]

i keep seeing these kinds of threads, the kind bashing other players, saying there arent many good players, or saying the community is toxic, or just complaining about the community in this game in general.
please, i implore u. all of u actually. go play TERA for a week and experience the scrubs there before u judge the people here. u think this community is bad... have u got no idea... lol

just help them if they are struggling. dont just ragequit :/ nobody likes a quitter.

ps. what do u expect op? if a game has a rising population, its not only going to get good players lol. the more good there is, comes more bad.

[Doo]

Maybe I'm just weird to enjoy the time i spend just playing the game, regardless of the outcome >_>

Hmmm for the most part I am the same but certain fights that are just rotation/phases like Titan EX. I do not enjoy getting stuck in phase 1 over and over again.