Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
So did you talk to these people? Maybe offer advice? Explain what it is that is killing them? Treat them like human beings?

No? Just stoney silence followed by a ragequit when you wipe?

I've run into a ton of people in DF who improve significantly when encounter mechanics are explained.
I've had my fair share of after explaining something - they still were just terrible. While I agree somewhat, any CT run shows you that people really stopped caring. We've all done something so much, we are burned out on it and want to be lazy. Having to cap tomes, run CT for a drop, and do coil (same crap every week, can't really blame them).

Unfortunately, that means bad players aren't getting carried as easily anymore. So now we have people who don't know what they are doing mixed in with the ones that do know, but are being lazy.