The number of bad players are rising!

[xenosuke1]

If I do, I won't enjoy the game anymore

my god they can learn

[Farryn]

here is the quick fix to your problems of not wanting to teach/play with bad players, listen closely

step 1. NEVER DO DUTY ROULETTE
step 2. ONLY PLAY WITH PEOPLE YOU KNOW
step 3. NEVER USE THE DUTY FINDER
step 4. NEVER USE THE PARTY FINDER
step 5. RINSE AND REPEAT

This isn't exactly practical advice, considering most of this game is instanced content that needs a party to get through. As nice as it would be to have a static group of friends that will play with you all the time, most of us don't have that and if we followed these rules we wouldn't really have anything to do.

[xenosuke1]

This isn't exactly practical advice, considering most of this game is instanced content that needs a party to get through. As nice as it would be to have a static group of friends that will play with you all the time, most of us don't have that and if we followed these rules we wouldn't really have anything to do.

then u have no right to complain and wail about noobs, because like i said u are bringin those probs on yourselves, with playin with randoms, and im not talkn bout the instanced stuff tht u have to do for like story completion and whatnot

[Velo_Vandore]

I think a casual / hardcore checkbox on the duty finder would help a lot. Party finder has this, but not many people check the party finder unless doing top tier stuff I think. In my experience at least - I waited over 3 hours for a "slow and easy", "newcomers welcome" run of Pharos (as a healer), with only one person showing interest".

The idea would be:

Set Hardcore only if you're on a repeat run / speedrun for loot or tomes, and want to avoid noobs / delays.

Set Casual only if you're on the first run or still getting the hang of tactics. Or if you just prefer not to speedrun and love to help people.

Set Both if you're experienced enough that you can keep up with the best of them, but you're OK to slow down and help others out.

Sure someone can still hit hardcore when they're not, but then the rage they encounter from other players will be more justified. People can hit casual just to get into a run quicker and still rage at noobs, but again telling them where to go or vote kicking would be justified.

[Lunavi]

I think a casual / hardcore checkbox on the duty finder would help a lot. Party finder has this, but not many people check the party finder unless doing top tier stuff I think. In my experience at least - I waited over 3 hours for a "slow and easy", "newcomers welcome" run of Pharos (as a healer), with only one person showing interest".

The idea would be:

Set Hardcore only if you're on a repeat run / speedrun for loot or tomes, and want to avoid noobs / delays.

Set Casual only if you're on the first run or still getting the hang of tactics. Or if you just prefer not to speedrun and love to help people.

Set Both if you're experienced enough that you can keep up with the best of them, but you're OK to slow down and help others out.

Sure someone can still hit hardcore when they're not, but then the rage they encounter from other players will be more justified. People can hit casual just to get into a run quicker and still rage at noobs, but again telling them where to go or vote kicking would be justified.

Yeah, and guess which button all the scrubs will press? I do not think it is the one that says it will put them with people at their own level...

[Velo_Vandore]

Yeah, and guess which button all the scrubs will press? I do not think it is the one that says it will put them with people at their own level...

Yeah some people won't classify themselves as casual but still pull the group down, just like in party finder when a less than excellent player tries to get a free ride in an experienced only group. All I can say is that at least the occurrences would be less frequent, you'd be justified in kicking the scrubs, and the scrubs who know it can stay out of hardcore runs as much as possible. I just think it could help, not solve the issue 100%.

[MrLeonheart]

Set Hardcore only if you're on a repeat run / speedrun for loot or tomes, and want to avoid noobs / delays.

Set Casual only if you're on the first run or still getting the hang of tactics. Or if you just prefer not to speedrun and love to help people.

Set Both if you're experienced enough that you can keep up with the best of them, but you're OK to slow down and help others out.

Ah yes, segregating the community is definitely the answer. After all, why should you, the Golden God-Kings of Eorzea be forced into contact with the disgusting unwashed casual masses? What benefit could possibly be derived from such a loathsome scenario?

[Velo_Vandore]

Ah yes, segregating the community is definitely the answer. After all, why should you, the Golden God-Kings of Eorzea be forced into contact with the disgusting unwashed casual masses? What benefit could possibly be derived from such a loathsome scenario?

XD But the both option means that Casuals and Hardcore players will still meet, but inexperienced casuals will never (in theory) meet a hardcore player who's not happy to slow it down for them.

I have some faith that the 'Both' option would be what most experienced players use (as it means less queue time and they get more variance / freshness from run to run), meaning they may get grouped in a hardcore run or in a casual run. Casual players will never be segregated from hardcore players as some hardcore players may select 'Both'. Hardcore players who want to be segregated from casuals can uncheck 'Casual' - why not let them?

[MrLeonheart]

XD But the both option means that Casuals and Hardcore players will still meet, but inexperienced casuals will never (in theory) meet a hardcore player who's not happy to slow it down for them.

I have some faith that the 'Both' option would be what most experienced players use (as it means less queue time and they get more variance / freshness from run to run), meaning they may get grouped in a hardcore run or in a casual run. Casual players will never be segregated from hardcore players as some hardcore players may select 'Both'. Hardcore players who want to be segregated from casuals can uncheck 'Casual' - why not let them?

Pre-made groups are a thing and they tend to work pretty well. If you are unwilling to use them, you need to expect that you'll have to experience the unremitting horror of casual play.

[Foo01]

The idea would be:

Set Hardcore only if you're on a repeat run / speedrun for loot or tomes, and want to avoid noobs / delays.

Set Casual only if you're on the first run or still getting the hang of tactics. Or if you just prefer not to speedrun and love to help people.

Set Both if you're experienced enough that you can keep up with the best of them, but you're OK to slow down and help others out.

The whole point of duty finder is for experienced player to help the noobs. This kind of self classification would only make sense if duty roulette daily rewards were handed out as such.
Casual get 100% reward
Both gets 40% reward
Hardcore gets 0% reward (after these are hardcore players playing for the fun of it)

That's like saying if I witness RMT but don't report them, then I am contributing to the problem. Just because you don't do anything about it, doesn't mean you're contributing to it. I am neither responsible nor helping the cause.

P.S I hope you don't blame world hunger on me for not giving money to the homeless.

By deliberating pretending to be blind to RMT, you are NOT contributing to solve the problem. At the very least you can flip a coin to decide you should to report them.

And no one would be blaming you for world hunger, when giving money to the homeless doesn't even begin to solve or relate to world hunger.

But if you elitist 1% think that that the rest of the world can rot while you live high on the hog as if that is your divine right, just remember whose head rolled when she said to "let them eat cake".