The number of bad players are rising!

[Ed_N_Ants]

My GF is a really good tank and she ran ct for the first time unfortunately without me... She was new to CT and from what I understand was ganged up on by all the people in the raid... People berated her so bad that she doesn't even tank anymore, this disgusts me not only because she is my gf but for the simple fact that people can take a game so seriously... Because someone is new doesn't mean that they are bad, sometimes it takes time to learn what you are doing and some people get overwhelmed by too much chaos... How many dungeons have you ran not having a clue what's happening just rolling though the motions? On another note this rage quitting or belittling is totally unacceptable... People are suppose to work together to achieve something and help people that are falling behind... Don't complain about people, if it bothers you that much then help change them and mold them... I was in the military and when one of our comrades was struggling we didn't say screw it and leave him behind... We helped pick him back up and push him forward... Not everyone is on your level but one day that might surpass it...

[PArcher]

My GF is a really good tank and she ran ct for the first time unfortunately without me... She was new to CT and from what I understand was ganged up on by all the people in the raid... People berated her so bad that she doesn't even tank anymore, this disgusts me not only because she is my gf but for the simple fact that people can take a game so seriously... Because someone is new doesn't mean that they are bad, sometimes it takes time to learn what you are doing and some people get overwhelmed by too much chaos...

OK, I have to ask, how often do you two not play together? Yes...this is important.

What did she do to cause the hate? Pull the Valefor in a way to wipe the raid with tail swipe? (which no tank should do, no matter how inexperienced they are at CT. Its the same enemy as the last boss of AK...)

Also, if one instance without you made her "stop tanking"...maybe she isn't really cut out to be a tank in the first place...

[Ed_N_Ants]

OK, I have to ask, how often do you two not play together? Yes...this is important.

What did she do to cause the hate? Pull the Valefor in a way to wipe the raid with tail swipe? (which no tank should do, no matter how inexperienced they are at CT. Its the same enemy as the last boss of AK...)

Also, if one instance without you made her "stop tanking"...maybe she isn't really cut out to be a tank in the first place...

I work night shift and she works days so probably about 4 days a week... I'm not sure on the whole scenerio and quite frankly it doesn't matter... It wasn't that she was running without me that irrelevant... It's the fact that deuch bags don't need to jump on inexperienced player for whatever reason... I would never berate someone who is trying... EVER... I've ran titan, I get frustrated I get it, but i don't tell people they suck and they need to quit or whatever else... I explain and teach something everyone should be doing... You ever tried doing a meld for someone that is new...

[PArcher]

I work night shift and she works days so probably about 4 days a week... I'm not sure on the whole scenerio and quite frankly it doesn't matter... It wasn't that she was running without me that irrelevant... It's the fact that deuch bags don't need to jump on inexperienced player for whatever reason... I would never berate someone who is trying... EVER... I've ran titan, I get frustrated I get it, but i don't tell people they suck and they need to quit or whatever else... I explain and teach something everyone should be doing... You ever tried doing a meld for someone that is new...

It is relevant since many people who play the vast majority of the time with one specific person (esp tank/heal combo) tend to...not know how to play with anyone else. Its, sadly, a more common issue than it should be.

All you said was she was "harassed" for being "inexperienced"...are you sure that's what it was? That it wasn't she did something like wipe the raid with a Valefor (which is more a sign of trolling or stupidity than anything, as its the same thing as the boss of AK...) or kept bringing skeletons to occupied platforms (which, if that happens people will tell you to stop, and if you keep doing it then you'll get told off) or said something to get people angry at her? Also...did she ask for advice, or just charge in and then screw up? If the latter...people will tend to get mad since the new person didn't ask for help and just did whatever they wanted.


Also...melding? Now THAT is an irrelevant point

[Orophin]

The 1 - 49 contents needs to be a little more punishing to make people more aware of how to play their job, consider many of them tends to hate being offered advice.

We had this, until people cried about how hard the level 15 main story quest was in beta, and well, the rest is probably history.

[Tyla_Esmeraude]

My GF is a really good tank and she ran ct for the first time unfortunately without me... snip

Couldn't have said better. This. So true. You know your job, know your skill rotation, and even then, even knowing the fight, you CAN still make mistakes. Just because you make mistakes doesn't mean you are a bad player. No one is perfect. NO ONE. People just forget they are playing with REAL people with feelings, just like them (well, most of these people don't seem to have feelings anyways) and they have zero respect.

Specially for new fights... I'm so tired of people feeling they are badasses and complain about others making mistakes, but when they make mistakes, they don't admit to them, it's easier to blame someone else, yeah?

I also agree, rage quitters are the bad players here.

[gamersince1976]

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[SeekerScorpio]

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And the reality is, that is why I prefer my players to be an "elitist" than "casual". Not only do casuals sound more annoying, half the excuses and insults do not make any sense. I didn't know not standing in fire and me telling you to avoid it is classified under me not having a life 9 (yes I have experienced this first and third person MANY times, I don't just make up random stories to prove a point). The funny thing is, casuals say elitists make mountains out of molehills, hell we see the exact opposite since constructive criticism (YES constructive criticism not insulting like some people in this forums love to twist in such a sick and manipulative sense) gets us harassment reports. Someone in the parser thread said it best, a lot of "elitist" have no problem teaching, it's just the casuals have utter refusal to learn or take ANY form of advice into consideration.

[micropanther7]

And the reality is, that is why I prefer my players to be an "elitist" than "casual".

Hey I consider myself casual player, but even I know red stuff = bad I can tell the difference between helpful advice/constructive criticism, and when someone's just being a douche. It's common sense in a dungeon, if I pull too much aggro as a dps I get squished (horribly, as I deserve too, if I make stupid mistakes). I will run to the tank and hide under him (even better if he's a roe, I can hide in him) if I accidentally pull aggro... you're generalizing all people who play casually, we're not all complete idiots

[myahele]

I agree rage quitters are bad players. I typically see this on primal battles when after 1-2 wipes ppl vote abandon or simply leave.

I wouldn't call them bad players, just inexperienced. If you do the same content over and over again you'll memorize the mechanics. That and there's also people playing/leveling thier alts for fun.

That and I also think that the number of new players are increasing, while the vets are off doing the harder content with ppl they know.