The number of bad players are rising!

[Adrian74]

Two days ago I ran into a drg that died so much her armor broke in CM. Yesterday I ran into a WHM that couldn't doge to save his life so he died over and over and our group kept wiping! These are just two examples, I could go on and on.

My apologies...
Maybe you played with me...

[Emtron]

I just remind myself that I was a newb once, also from my experience when I have been in groups and person makes a mistake they start to apologize profusely as if to nullify the crucifixion there expecting. I use to be like that person feeling like if I died here comes the shit storm it a crappy feeling so I help people if they make a mistake or need help its call paying it forward.

[LalaRu]

Piling up 12 pages of drama in one day, about complaining "bad" players got on PUGs.

This is bad.

[MeiUshu]

why is it that so called good players expect players to be instantly good like they themselves are which are good to them but may be bad to others ?

strange uh?

Mei

[Shneibel]

why is it that so called good players expect players to be instantly good like they themselves are which are good to them but may be bad to others ?

strange uh?

those ppl just forgot they once are newb as well, the obvious

[CUTS3R]

those ppl just forgot they once are newb as well, the obvious

Thing is i may have been a "noob" long ago ( duriing Beta maybe ).
I have progressed in order to succeed instances without troubles, which is almost every time i run something with friends.

Where im getting at is, why should i, nowadays, allow myself to wipe, over things ive completed hundred times, just because someone is now "the noob" ?
It completely nullifies the purpose of all the efforts i made to progress. At this point, we may aswell call it regression.

To put it simply, i was once a "noob", im not anymore. And im only willing to play with people who are the same as me.

It may sound hypocrite, and you're right.

[Seiryuukishi]

I have 7+ years experience in MMO's. Not every gamer is raid efficient or even interested in long term end game raiding. Some like to try and get a feel for it. Everyone including myself has a learning curve. For me Titan HM has been a bane. I have studied both visual and written guides on the pattern used in the fight. Only now is it sinking in. It's not from a lack of trying to learn it but I rarely run it to begin with so some information doesn't stick. As the saying goes: Don't use it you lose it. In every other MMO I have played I have always played a tank as main. Not so here. I have a lvl 50 Warrior but I have gotten so used to having such high health in other games that this was a bit of a "culture shock" to me. My Warden from lotro has 18k+ health in tank stance. I could take any hit. Here tanking is way too mobile for me. Not that I don't try. Actually giving it another chance. But I prefer healing/dps in ffxiv. People have to learn at their own pace. It's a game lol.

[skaterger]

Thing is i may have been a "noob" long ago ( duriing Beta maybe ).
I have progressed in order to succeed instances without troubles, which is almost every time i run something with friends.

Where im getting at is, why should i, nowadays, allow myself to wipe, over things ive completed hundred times, just because someone is now "the noob" ?
It completely nullifies the purpose of all the efforts i made to progress. At this point, we may aswell call it regression.

To put it simply, i was once a "noob", im not anymore. And im only willing to play with people who are the same as me.

It may sound hypocrite, and you're right.

Simple. Don't use the duty roulette. Set PF to be "1 mistake and kick" or whatever or run with your FC. Duty roulette is where its fair game and where you will most likely find new players. You can't have your cake and eat it.

[Giyari]

ask the gm that gave me 2 hours in jail for offering a blm that was struggling in t4 after the group disbanded. i got reported for harassing them by asking them questions to find out what they were doing to try and help them. since then i don't help anyone nor offer any assistance.

edit: i need to add that i'm not saying i will not help, but what i am saying is i won't go out of my way to offer help anymore. if someone asks how to improve i'll spend hours helping them if that's what it takes, but i won't offer help to anyone that hasn't asked for it anymore.

since i went to jail for asking simple questions and stating things such as "on the aoe groups you can really increase your damage by using fire 2 instead of blizzard 3" i don't offer to help people unless they directly ask for help in shout, fc, ls, or say within hearing distance.

^

Does this mean Yoshida wants people to struggle so people keep paying to play?

[Raindene]

Well, as a relatively new player, I always try to ask for help whenever I enter an instance for the first time (or am just not sure) and I do read up on instance/trial guides before I do them. The only thing I don't do, is watching video guides, because I honestly don't wanna be spoiled :/
Does that make me a bad player, just because I don't want to spoil my first time experience?

I really love this game and honestly, most parties I've had were really nice so far, but reading this thread kinda makes me afraid of later content :/
I really don't screw up on purpose when I do and I admit it when I think it's my fault (like when I had this huge derp and pressed the wrong hotkey, almost wiping my party >.<). I guess what I wanna say is that there's new players who really do wanna try and get better, we're not all bad, ya know :P