360 Day Veteran Reward - Aetheryte Ticket

[WendyDarling]

in that case it just boils down to personal preference. u like the tickets, and everybody else thinks its stupid

edit : wanted to add, u are in the minority here thinking that these cheap teleport tickets are a good bonus, granted it IS a bonus. but thats just it, its just an underwhelming bonus, when compared to the other bonuses that people got for being here for a less amount of time. thats not how that kind of thing usually works... things get bigger and better as rewards, not smaller and cheaper.

[Khavir]

I think the argument that if you're going to add a reward system and you put one in that is negligible so it draws attention to the fact that it's a pointless reward system as opposed to not even having one in the first place is a fair argument to make. Why not make it some sort of vanity gear. Especially now that they're adding that system into the game?

[NyneAlexander]

THAT is what the 360 day loyalty reward should be. An extra retainer.

[Clavaat]

its like if one year, u get a nice christmas bonus from ur boss, and the next year u get another nice one, and then the 3rd year since uve grown accustomed to it, u think something nice is going to happen, and when it doesnt u get disappointed. its not the same situation, but its similar enough for comparison.

I won't argue this any further. I've seen a similar comparison already made here, and it baffles me. This is the most petty attitude I've ever seen. You are playing a video game. A video game people worked on for years. They have given you the product, which you bought. They need money to keep it running. They give trinkets for no reason. Someone had to code that. You think it's stupid, and want it changed. You want them to work more than they already have for something that doesn't matter. Is playing an MMO your job? No. Is making and maintaining an MMO theirs? Yes.

[BloodPact]

in that case it just boils down to personal preference. u like the tickets, and everybody else thinks its stupid

edit : wanted to add, u are in the minority here thinking that these cheap teleport tickets are a good bonus, granted it IS a bonus. but thats just it, its just an underwhelming bonus, when compared to the other bonuses that people got for being here for a less amount of time. thats not how that kind of thing usually works... things get bigger and better as rewards, not smaller and cheaper.

Exactly. Many because are just so materialistic that they'd rather hold on to something they'll never use than get something they'll get some use out of. "No matter, at least I can see it there in my inventory or minion/mount list! I have it!". We've been getting these kind of rewards since the game started; I don't think that expendable presents from time to time will ruin someone's gaming experience. At the very least, it's a change from the first semester rewards

But that's the point, it's a gift. If they give you a 10 dollar gift card for buying newly released game as part of a promotion at "CoolGames" and you come the next month, and this time they give you a 5 dollar gift card for purchasing a new game because they decided to modify their offering, you don't complain. Why would you? And thank you for tallying the posts in this thread and analyzing which side each post is on; I'm actually quite glad I'm in the minority, as it reflects my state in real life. It's good not to be part of the tumult.

[NyneAlexander]

I won't argue this any further. I've seen a similar comparison already made here, and it baffles me. This is the most petty attitude I've ever seen. You are playing a video game. A video game people worked on for years. They have given you the product, which you bought. They need money to keep it running. They give trinkets for no reason. Someone had to code that. You think it's stupid, and want it changed. You want them to work more than they already have for something that doesn't matter. Is playing an MMO your job? No. Is making and maintaining an MMO theirs? Yes.

The trinkets aren't given for no reason. They're given for loyalty. Thats why they're called "loyalty rewards." And you left out the part of the equation about how paying for the mmo enables the people making the mmo to have a job.

[ReiszRie]

I don't biatch about losing the 20%. It's called the end of a promotion. This happens all the time. And frankly, I simply don't have the time and energy to write letters or batch at someone because I didn't get a 20% discount even though a promotion, regardless if it's one time or a year long, is over. Stop twisting it as though you don't feel entitled based off your own expectations.

End of a promotion? that is the best argument you could come up with? oh god.

I love how those against a better veteran reward have absolutely not a single compelling argument.

In fact, it is really strange to see people choosing to have sub-par items (and vehemently defend it) over the possibility of attaining a better one.

[ReiszRie]

Are we kidding with this petition?

The 50 tickets are fantastic that's 50 free teleports AND you're getting a badass Odin Minion. What do you expect from Veteran Rewards? This is ACTUALLY something of some value.

For Hydaelyn's sake it's a Veteran Reward, not a Turn 9 reward.


Instead, why don't you make a petition to stop world hunger or something.

I do not support your petition. It's very petty.




....lol..so you wouldn't even use them to save on 50 free teleports...wow....Just use them to get rid of them if you really don't care THAT much.





Wow. Just wow at this one...My opinion would be "It's okay, you have bigger things to worry about. I have a job, you don't need to give me money."

...do your parents know you're on the computer..

Maybe your parents couldn't give you the $100 that year because there were more important things to take care of to make sure your life is stable and enjoyable? Think about that? That was such a "Spoiled kid" kind of response..


Here, wait I have one.


(Petition to change) FFXIV player base entitlement debuff {Yes, please.}



Moderator... close thread please. ,_,

When the preceding veteran reward gives you an almighty behemoth mount, yeah, you'd be so damn thrilled to know that the next veteran reward level gives you a... Odin minion and 50 free teleports! yeah you heard me right, 50 free teleports! damn straight.


just because you go around calling everyone else entitled doesn't mean you are right and it sure doesn't mean you are "better" than the others you are criticizing.

Here is a suggestion, stop criticizing the people here and focus on delivering a compelling argument as to why 50 free teleport is appropriate for a 360 day veteran reward when the preceding veteran rewards gives unique and collector's items.

[NyneAlexander]

^^^^^^ yup

Be honest. Half the people here get excited about insulting other people. Period. And the lot of you throw the word "entitled" around because you frankly have no compelling argument. Being the most condescending doesn't make you the most correct.

[ReiszRie]

I think you grossly underestimate how many people actually purchase larger subscriptions to obtain items early and how much money SE makes thanks to these longer subscriptions. And like I said, that's a perfectly fine way to operate.

They don't make any extra money from subscribers like you. However, they are still trying to get you to subscribe longer; it just doesn't matter to you in particular. They make a ton of extra money off of everyone else. I can't even imagine how many accounts chose a longer model just to get the Behemoth mount early. (Whether or not these players made a wise decision or not isn't the point.)

SE puts these items up as an incentive to subscribe longer. That's not even debatable.

Indeed, P2P model have the sole advantage of revenue forecasting, hence it is a model preferred by studios that can shoulder the initial cost of development without a tight schedule to turn profitable.

In that sense, players paying up to 180 days up front is a boon for the devs as they can forecast further into the future, planning out things like the scope and size of content patches based on forecasted revenues.

Having said that, the veteran rewards isn't merely the devs way of saying "thanks" it is a marketing strategy as you've pointed out to entice players into subscribing larger chunks of play-time ahead