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    Player Rex's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiszRie View Post
    When the preceding veteran reward gives you an almighty behemoth mount, yeah, you'd be so damn thrilled to know that the next veteran reward level gives you a... Odin minion and 50 free teleports! yeah you heard me right, 50 free teleports! damn straight.


    just because you go around calling everyone else entitled doesn't mean you are right and it sure doesn't mean you are "better" than the others you are criticizing.

    Here is a suggestion, stop criticizing the people here and focus on delivering a compelling argument as to why 50 free teleport is appropriate for a 360 day veteran reward when the preceding veteran rewards gives unique and collector's items.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    (As an aside, I removed the "petition" part of your thread title, as we do not make responses just because the word "petition" is used.)

    ^ This just proves my point. Bayohne's response to another thread with the "petition" title.

    A compelling argument? There's no reason to even complain period! Even if the Behemoth was the 360 day reward and you got the tickets earlier on, someone would still complain that 270 days (or whatever) for 50 free tickets is lame! You can't get a Behemoth mount every month! Get over it!

    Quote Originally Posted by ReiszRie View Post
    End of a promotion? that is the best argument you could come up with? oh god.

    I love how those against a better veteran reward have absolutely not a single compelling argument.

    In fact, it is really strange to see people choosing to have sub-par items (and vehemently defend it) over the possibility of attaining a better one.
    1.) Don't accuse me of criticizing when you're basically belittling everyone for "not having a good argument"

    2.) ...Square Enix is giving you something for subscribing. For god sake. Calm down. Who cares what it is. In FFXI there are no veteran rewards. You sub and that's it. Nobody complained then. People didn't ask SE "Hey, can you do veteran rewards and give us stuff for subbing?" SE just did this as a plus. Yet people STILL complain.

    The real question is, and I've said this multiple times before. Why do I bother even coming into these forums? Yes, I have called out posts that appear to say, "I am entitled." Never did I say I'm better than anyone else. That just must be how you feel.


    Here's my "argument"

    Is it REALLY a big deal...Does it REALLY hinder your enjoyment of the game? I highly doubt it does.
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    Last edited by Rex; 03-20-2014 at 03:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    ^ This just proves my point. Bayohne's response to another thread with the "petition" title.
    It is one thing to say something. It is another thing entirely to actually do something. Just because they do not choose to acknowledge a complaint openly does not mean that they do not acknowledge it at all. We have seen threads like these be deleted as well which is also a form of acknowledgement.

    But you're right, Square Enix does not owe us anything. However, I would definitely appreciate having something a little bit nicer to commemorate a year of playing Final Fantasy XIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delorean View Post
    It is one thing to say something. It is another thing entirely to actually do something. Just because they do not choose to acknowledge a complaint openly does not mean that they do not acknowledge it at all. We have seen threads like these be deleted as well which is also a form of acknowledgement.

    But you're right, Square Enix does not owe us anything. However, I would definitely appreciate having something a little bit nicer to commemorate a year of playing Final Fantasy XIV.

    You're right, it'll be cool to have something to commemorate a year.

    But people jump the gun.

    Did anyone ever stop to think that there's a high possibility that there will be an event around the year anniversary, that will give us all something unique? Something beyond the Veteran Rewards? It doesn't look like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post

    1.) Don't accuse me of criticizing when you're basically belittling everyone for "not having a good argument"

    2.) ...Square Enix is giving you something for subscribing. For god sake. Calm down. Who cares what it is. In FFXI there are no veteran rewards. You sub and that's it. Nobody complained then. People didn't ask SE "Hey, can you do veteran rewards and give us stuff for subbing?" SE just did this as a plus. Yet people STILL complain.

    The real question is, and I've said this multiple times before. Why do I bother even coming into these forums? Yes, I have called out posts that appear to say, "I am entitled." Never did I say I'm better than anyone else. That just must be how you feel.


    Here's my "argument"

    Is it REALLY a big deal...Does it REALLY hinder your enjoyment of the game? I highly doubt it does.
    1. Different thing altogether, you are throwing unjustified insults around whereas I'm merely asking for a good argument from those who opposes having a different veteran reward.

    2. You are the one who needs to calm down, we have explained countless of times, our rationale on this topic, it isn't just a mindless rant without rationale, perhaps it would do you good to read through them and understand the arguments raised.

    3. By calling others self-entitled you are implying that you aren't and therefore an individual who possesses "better" values and virtues than those you are disparaging, the fact you are even trying to mask your attempts at being condescending and disparaging is rather baffling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    Are we kidding with this petition?

    Instead, why don't you make a petition to stop world hunger or something.

    I do not support your petition. It's very petty.

    Wow. Just wow at this one...My opinion would be "It's okay, you have bigger things to worry about. I have a job, you don't need to give me money."

    ...do your parents know you're on the computer..

    Maybe your parents couldn't give you the $100 that year because there were more important things to take care of to make sure your life is stable and enjoyable? Think about that? That was such a "Spoiled kid" kind of response..

    Here, wait I have one.

    (Petition to change) FFXIV player base entitlement debuff {Yes, please.}
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    Last edited by ReiszRie; 03-20-2014 at 09:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    Wow. Just wow at this one...My opinion would be "It's okay, you have bigger things to worry about. I have a job, you don't need to give me money."
    actually, if in that scenario, when someone turns 18 and their parents sit them down and give them the "you're all grown up, you don't need anything from us" speech, I'm okay with that.

    getting nothing is better getting something sub par. getting something sub par means they put thought into it and decided poorly. when they make poor decisions it influences consumer confidence on whether or not they will continue making poor decisions in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    Maybe your parents couldn't give you the $100 that year because there were more important things to take care of to make sure your life is stable and enjoyable? Think about that? That was such a "Spoiled kid" kind of response..
    so your argument is they are giving us Teleport tickets because they can't afford to give us something better? the point of analogies is to give parallel examples, obviously this was not a decision based on financial constraint.
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    • Pre-Order Bonuses
    • CE Bonuses
    • CE upgrade option
    • Legacy exclusives
    • 1.0 to ARR free software
    • 1.0 CE to ARR CE free of charge
    • Subscription pricing models - Legacy / Non Legacy / One character
    • Payment Options
    • Free Teleports for Software (free) and Hardware Security tokens
    • "Veteran Rewards Program"
    • PS3 to PS4 Free of Charge
    • Bonus items from other XIV products (Before Meteor/ARR Ost)
    • Contests to receive special in game items



    • Petition to change 50 free teleports.

    Not gonna deny marketing isn't involved with these but:
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    I normally take dev actions as "Well all games suck somewhere." This though, wow, 50 free ports? So many different things in its place. /sign
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    Maybe they should change it to a free retainer.
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    im not one to look a gift horse in the mouth... but 50 teleport tickets for an entire year of subscription is pretty abysmal when u compare it to the other veteran rewards like mounts, race change, outfits, minions....

    yeah, /signed

    maybe a perm. teleport voucher or something along those lines, but 50 free teleport tickets is just a cop out in my opinion.
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    in that case it just boils down to personal preference. u like the tickets, and everybody else thinks its stupid

    edit : wanted to add, u are in the minority here thinking that these cheap teleport tickets are a good bonus, granted it IS a bonus. but thats just it, its just an underwhelming bonus, when compared to the other bonuses that people got for being here for a less amount of time. thats not how that kind of thing usually works... things get bigger and better as rewards, not smaller and cheaper.
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    Last edited by WendyDarling; 03-20-2014 at 03:18 AM.

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