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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galactimus View Post
    SE puts these items up as an incentive to subscribe longer. That's not even debatable.
    There comes a time when it's your responsibility as a consumer to address what the smartest course of action is when paying for anything. If a company's "incentives" are too enticing to resist, that is on you. The debate is irrelevant. Whether the rewards are incentives to subscribe longer or not is also irrelevant. You are paying to upkeep servers and improve the game. If you don't think the subscription price warrants that purchase, then don't pay for it. It doesn't matter if there is a reward or not.
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  2. #132
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    • Pre-Order Bonuses
    • CE Bonuses
    • CE upgrade option
    • Legacy exclusives
    • 1.0 to ARR free software
    • 1.0 CE to ARR CE free of charge
    • Subscription pricing models - Legacy / Non Legacy / One character
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    • Free Teleports for Software (free) and Hardware Security tokens
    • "Veteran Rewards Program"
    • PS3 to PS4 Free of Charge
    • Bonus items from other XIV products (Before Meteor/ARR Ost)
    • Contests to receive special in game items



    • Petition to change 50 free teleports.

    Not gonna deny marketing isn't involved with these but:
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  3. #133
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    I normally take dev actions as "Well all games suck somewhere." This though, wow, 50 free ports? So many different things in its place. /sign
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    Maybe they should change it to a free retainer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Everdark View Post
    I love that people that disagree with the petition are bumping it, instead of ignoring it and letting it die.

    imo: SE decided to give Vet rewards, so they should do it right and give things worth giving. No one wants coal in their stocking for christmas ... but then we should be glad we got something, right?
    Does it really matter that it gets bumped? Not like a thread with as many people disagreeing with OP as there are agreeing with it is gonna get any change anyway. SE will look at it here and see more people like it than don't.
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clavaat View Post
    There comes a time when it's your responsibility as a consumer to address what the smartest course of action is when paying for anything. If a company's "incentives" are too enticing to resist, that is on you. The debate is irrelevant. Whether the rewards are incentives to subscribe longer or not is also irrelevant. You are paying to upkeep servers and improve the game. If you don't think the subscription price warrants that purchase, then don't pay for it. It doesn't matter if there is a reward or not.
    Completely taken out of context with everything else I've posted in this thread but w/e. All of my posts (in summary) are simply pointing to the fact that the Aetheryte Tickets could have been a much better item; something you can't already get in-game. A much better "incentive" to get players to chose a 6 month sub over a 30 day sub.

    I don't know how many players would be willing to subscribe "extra months in advance" just to obtain Aetheryte Tickets. But I bet there's a few thousand who would plop their money down if they could get another mount early. Happier players and more money for SE. And yet people in this thread seem to be against this?

    Are you monsters?!
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    Last edited by Galactimus; 03-20-2014 at 02:49 AM.

  7. #137
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    im not one to look a gift horse in the mouth... but 50 teleport tickets for an entire year of subscription is pretty abysmal when u compare it to the other veteran rewards like mounts, race change, outfits, minions....

    yeah, /signed

    maybe a perm. teleport voucher or something along those lines, but 50 free teleport tickets is just a cop out in my opinion.
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galactimus View Post
    -snip-
    Again, I'll say that the incentives are irrelevant and unnecessary. It doesn't matter if you subscribe in advance or not. You will get the items eventually. I'm saying people who would prioritize items like this and claiming they rightfully paid for them are acting irrational. I'm not for or against better rewards. I don't care. The money I'm paying every month goes to server upkeep and better development options for the team. That's all I care about. If a player would willingly limit their subscription based on these incentives, I have no respect for them because they don't respect real game development and the real costs involved.
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  9. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clavaat View Post
    they don't respect real game development and the real costs involved.
    it doesnt matter, "they" payed their hard erned $ to be here just as much as u did. when u look at the reward in comparision to the others, its pretty lame. face it, its true, who cares about 50 free teleports when they are already insanely cheap anyway....??? especially when the stuff from earlier was waaaaay better.

    i wont be hitting the year long sub milestone for quite a while so it doesnt really affect me at all yet, but people who HAVE been here, and stuck around, i think deserve something better. if u think of it from that perspective, its practicly reversed, why would the devs have such little respect as to reward people who have stuck around for a year with something so meaningless?

    its like if one year, u get a nice christmas bonus from ur boss, and the next year u get another nice one, and then the 3rd year since uve grown accustomed to it, u think something nice is going to happen, and when it doesnt u get disappointed. its not the same situation, but its similar enough for comparison.
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    Last edited by WendyDarling; 03-20-2014 at 02:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WendyDarling View Post
    it doesnt matter, "they" payed their hard erned $ to be here just as much as u did. when u look at the reward in comparision to the others, its pretty lame. face it, its true, who cares about 50 free teleports when they are already insanely cheap anyway....??? especially when the stuff from earlier was waaaaay better.

    i wont be hitting the year long sub milestone for quite a while so it doesnt really affect me at all yet, but people who HAVE been here, and stuck around, i think deserve something better. if u think of it from that perspective, its practicly reversed, why would the devs have such little respect as to reward people who have stuck around for a year with something so meaningless?

    its like if one year, u get a nice christmas bonus from ur boss, and the next year u get another nice one, and then the 3rd year since uve grown accustomed to it, u think something nice is going to happen, and when it doesnt u get disappointed. its not the same situation, but its similar enough for comparison.
    LOL! You just rebutted the argument in your first two paragraphs with your third. Exactly as you said. It's a bonus that they decide to give, it's not your "salary", as you put in your example, which in this case would be game access, but it's a bonus.

    Now, it is your opinion that it's worthless; for me it's a great reward. A minion? When the XI-cross event came out how many people had Shantotto out? How many people summon it now? The tickets, although nothing groundbreaking, are a lot more convenient than most of the stuff we've recieved until now.

    What about the people who have been here? We've all been here the same time. Just because you pay a year in advance doesn't mean you've played that year. And, btw, at the end of that year, when I pay for that month I'll actually have payed more than the person who pre-payed because I'm pretty sure paying in bulk gets you discounts. So actually, if we go by the twisted logic of some people in here, because at the end of that year I payed a bit more, I should get more rewards for that milestone.
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