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    So much butt hurt in this thread over something so simple and weird attachment to a date.

    Your monthly payment is going towards the ongoing maintenance of the game, servers, network, employees, and other properties associated with FFXIV/SE.

    The veteran rewards are a gift, a small gesture of good will for paying for their product. You don't have to like them, you don't even have to receive them.

    Your options are use them or don't, simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiszRie View Post
    1. Different thing altogether, you are throwing unjustified insults around whereas I'm merely asking for a good argument from those who opposes having a different veteran reward.

    2. You are the one who needs to calm down, we have explained countless of times, our rationale on this topic, it isn't just a mindless rant without rationale, perhaps it would do you good to read through them and understand the arguments raised.

    3. By calling others self-entitled you are implying that you aren't and therefore an individual who possesses "better" values and virtues than those you are disparaging, the fact you are even trying to mask your attempts at being condescending and disparaging is rather baffling.
    /shakesfist

    oooo I'm angry

    Honestly I just don't think there's a reason to be complaining about it. That's it. I don't think there needs to be a "Petition" to change a simple veteran reward.

    Like I just said in a more recent post, it doesn't look like anyone stopped to think that there is a possibility that there will be something bigger waiting for us at the year anniversary than just a veteran reward.

    My comments come off condescending but I don't intentionally mean it this way. Everyone is just always demanding more from the dev team and it's just so exhausting because I know the work they're doing. There's bigger things for them to worry about than putting excess work into a veteran reward. Like, oh I don't know. The expansion they're about to start production on. I'd rather have a quality expansion than bother the dev team about changing a veteran reward.


    Quote Originally Posted by SLeonhart View Post
    QFT. That said, I really don't mind those opposing this petition taking the abusive, condescending attitude that they have. It isn't exactly strengthening their position. Let them take the lower ground
    ....Lol...position...I don't care if Square changes the award...I just think there's no reason to demand something else!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    You're right, it'll be cool to have something to commemorate a year.

    But people jump the gun.

    Did anyone ever stop to think that there's a high possibility that there will be an event around the year anniversary, that will give us all something unique? Something beyond the Veteran Rewards? It doesn't look like it.
    That's actually different though. One is commemorating the games longevity vs our own personal longevity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-croft View Post
    That's actually different though. One is commemorating the games longevity vs our own personal longevity.
    They can't just keep scaling up the rewards...you can't have something bigger than a behemoth mount. I mean literally bigger. Veteran rewards aren't going to have any kind of advantage to them that will make other players "not as good as you" or anything. I think they'll be strictly vanity items.

    That's why I think this is actually a step in a different direction, the 50 tickets are actually of use. And maybe they're the first step to a whole year of items that might scale up as far as how useful they are to you without affecting others negatively who don't have that "prestige" yet.

    Think of other reasons. Don't just automatically think we're all being shafted. I can't figure out why people think this way.

    I almost wish there weren't veteran rewards because it's now another thing for everyone to complain about if they don't get what they want...

    I never would have thought people would complain about veteran rewards...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    They can't just keep scaling up the rewards...you can't have something bigger than a behemoth mount.

    I almost wish there weren't veteran rewards because it's now another thing for everyone to complain about if they don't get what they want...

    I doubt SE realized anyone would complain about veteran rewards.
    nobody said scale up, just don't scale down. they don't have any other mount ideas or bardings? many people even just asked for Fantasia. an extra Favorite teleport spot every year would be nice too.
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    Or... everyone complaining about people complaining about one of the rewards could have just not said anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    nobody said scale up, just don't scale down. they don't have any other mount ideas or bardings? many people even just asked for Fantasia. an extra Favorite teleport spot every year would be nice too.
    Check what I said, I updated my post.

    And see, right there. People will complain about your idea. There are people complaining that all these different mounts are useless and they don't want them. People literally just complain and complain. There's no winning. There will be tons of new mounts in the future. But they can't be JUST veteran rewards. And they can't be every other month...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    Check what I said, I updated my post.

    And see, right there. People will complain about your idea. There are people complaining that all these different mounts are useless and they don't want them. People literally just complain and complain. There's no winning. There will be tons of new mounts in the future. But they can't be JUST veteran rewards. And they can't be every other month...
    Quote Originally Posted by NyneAlexander View Post
    Or... everyone complaining about people complaining about one of the rewards could have just not said anything.
    But then there's people complaining about everyone complaining about people complaining about one of the rewards so everyone could just say nothing and there would be no complaining And people can come on the forums to discuss new ideas instead of trying to change ideas already in motion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    Check what I said, I updated my post.

    And see, right there. People will complain about your idea. There are people complaining that all these different mounts are useless and they don't want them. People literally just complain and complain. There's no winning. There will be tons of new mounts in the future. But they can't be JUST veteran rewards. And they can't be every other month...
    it's not every or every other month, it's every 3 months, but we don't want mounts every 3 months. strictly vanity items are good, perishable items are not. was there a thread that complained about Behemoth and Ahriman mounts?

    Outfit, Mount, Barding, Favorite Teleport, they can rotate those 4 every year. if there's ever personal housing they can throw in a unique piece of furnishing.

    12-hour recharge Mor Dhona ring (every expansion can have one of these).

    tons of things you can do that's not a perishable stack worth 25k max.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    it's not every or every other month, it's every 3 months, but we don't want mounts every 3 months. strictly vanity items are good, perishable items are not. was there a thread that complained about Behemoth and Ahriman mounts?

    Outfit, Mount, Barding, Favorite Teleport, they can rotate those 4 every year. if there's ever personal housing they can throw in a unique piece of furnishing.

    12-hour recharge Mor Dhona ring (every expansion can have one of these).

    tons of things you can do that's not a perishable stack worth 25k max.
    Not those mounts specifically, but there was a thread complaining about too many mounts XD And I went in there with the same attitude. I said "Are you serious? People ask for mounts, we get mounts, people complain there's too many mounts." So that's just become my general attitude toward most things that seem to complain about things that really don't hinder gameplay. It's tiring to see those types of threads...especially when there's dozens of them all saying the same thing and all on the front page.



    But, yeah, I get it. You think Veteran Reward should be something non perishable. You're right. But I mean, I don't know. There was never a rule saying it can't be either. And you're still getting a badass Odin mount minion...you're not completely empty-handed when you use those tickets.

    ....You know, I'd be for the idea of changing it if we got an Odin mount. But that's not happening XD And it'd make Sleipnir less unique. And again, to me it's a veteran reward and though you get perishable items, you still get an odin minion to show you've been there for a year. A lot of people won't really care honestly...they'll be like "oh cool you have that minion" and they too will get it eventually. Basically, I would have had a much different reaction to this thread if it weren't titled "Petition to change" Because like I've pointed out, that's not going to change anyone's mind at SE just because it says "Petition." I just don't think that veteran rewards need to be subject to change just because players ask or demand for it. The meat of the game is not found within vanity veteran rewards. That's just how I see it.

    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    so your argument is they are giving us Teleport tickets because they can't afford to give us something better? the point of analogies is to give parallel examples, obviously this was not a decision based on financial constraint.
    I was merely point out that the parents giving a kid $20 one year after giving $100 the year before is a poor analogy because the only reason a parent would do that is because they just can't give you $100. A loving parent would give you anything you want if they could. Square Enix is not your parents. I was just saying the analogy just didn't work lol.



    EDIT: Here's a perfect example of why I get upset with complaints. There's ACTUALLY a complaint about Glamours. The following is the OP from that thread (It's hidden for the people that care to see...trying to not to derail, just proving a point):

    Quote Originally Posted by Gesser View Post
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...043.1384890391

    1) Multi-slot->One-slot doesn't let you Glamour the next slot (e.g. head & chest darklight cowl to healer's robe).

    So I can convert my hooded robe into a plain, bodily robe but am not then permitted to wear a headpiece. That's a bit ridiculous, don't you think?


    BONUS (OPINION): The Name.

    Mirage Prism was 1,000x better. It's already bad enough I'm forced to display earrings on my rugged male Hyur... now I get to 'glamour' myself? If you let me glamour my jewelry into nothing-ness, that could work... but still, Glamour?!


    P.S. I'm not complaining, I just dislike the name. My emphasis lies more in the female-connotation of being "glamorous" in a Western Society... which' why I bring up the point I can't hide my earrings or necklace. Some may disagree, but I already feel forced into too much femininity in the game already.

    Please & Thank You SE!
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