this is the way my static group is looking at it. we still do coil, 1, because any gear you get now is less farming to do after 2.2, and 2, we're still working on turn 5.. maybe the 'echo' buff will help a little, but honestly, it's still not going to be an "oh look, I've never done this before, but now I can faceroll through it in 1 shot". the mechanics are still the same, and you still have to learn them.