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    Cloudcroft Ieyasu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    Are you trying to tell me to look at the bigger picture when you can't even read my post?

    Just read my first and second post, i just want options to develop my character in open world, in other words, non instanced endgame, i never mentioned the lockouts, even if i don't like them i know why are they in the game.

    I just answered to OP's post because i can't believe there's someone asking to not introduce open world content just because she likes instances and hates NMs with fictitious drop rates.

    You fail to realize that if there are no lockouts, the drop rates are made ridiculously low to increase the time sink. Which is where you get the 1% drop rates on items. MANY people have posted that they do not want lockouts and would rather be able to smash face in coil with horrible drop rates. CT is a good way to look at it. No lockout, but loot lockout instead. At least in CT there is a definite drop. If you get an open world NM/Boss, the drop rates will also be horribly low because it will be spammed non stop. From what I understand, 1.XX players had loads of fun farming their darklight in Aurum Vale with these horrible drop rates. Also, have fun with RMT and their autoclaim methods. Not to mention actual players doing the same. I am in favor of open world events, NM's, Bosses, etc. Just like you. But you don't see me telling someone that their post is useless. I for one don't want SE to slap something together considering the fact they took their design direction towards instanced content. The closest thing to open world is FATEs and I am fine with this until they can figure out how to do open world in FFXIV without shining a duece. While 1.0 had this vast empty space, 2.0 feels slightly claustrophobic.
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    Lara Felix
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-croft View Post
    Also, have fun with RMT and their autoclaim methods. Not to mention actual players doing the same.
    In general I agree with you, but it is easy to thwart RMT having a monopoly on NMs with rare drops. Just make them unique/untradeable.

    Other than that, well said.
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    I guess when people don't agree with you, they instantly become an elitist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-croft View Post
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    Again you fail to realize the OP used a tremendous exaggeration to impose her opinion, her post is useless for "cheating" not because her opinions differs with mines.

    Regarding the lockouts and drop rates, it's the same thing, if the drop rates and the spawns are well balanced it will take the same time getting something from an instance or in open world, those percentages are just numbers, a 5% can be a bit scary but when you say 1 week of work instead of a 5% drop rate, then you'll realize it's exactly the same time you'll be farming tomes on instances.

    I would make a thread with my own ideas to make open world work, but there are enough awesome ideas in the forum already, but of course, when a person like the OP see a thread with the label "open world" instead of reading it to see if it's good, they get in to bash the thread with negativity or poor excuses or just make another thread to expose the opposite point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    Again you fail to realize the OP used a tremendous exaggeration to impose her opinion, her post is useless for "cheating" not because her opinions differs with mines.

    Regarding the lockouts and drop rates, it's the same thing, if the drop rates and the spawns are well balanced it will take the same time getting something from an instance or in open world, those percentages are just numbers, a 5% can be a bit scary but when you say 1 week of work instead of a 5% drop rate, then you'll realize it's exactly the same time you'll be farming tomes on instances.

    I would make a thread with my own ideas to make open world work, but there are enough awesome ideas in the forum already, but of course, when a person like the OP see a thread with the label "open world" instead of reading it to see if it's good, they get in to bash the thread with negativity or poor excuses or just make another thread to expose the opposite point.


    I agree too few are willing to sit down and discuss matters like intelligent people its a simple case of them trying to enforce their ideals on others rather than seeking to understand another persons opinion and respecting it even while disagreeing. the second you explain your point against theirs they see it as an attack on their way of life and start slinging mud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
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    Still not looking at the big picture, but that's ok. Who am I to tell you that you are wrong?
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