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  1. #111
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    Joanna Selenia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    A toxic community, bad code test practices and forced limitations may cause a person to leave. The reasons to play are limited in favor of increasing the duration for which I am subscribing. SE is demonstrating great marketing to attract new subs, offering rewards to prepay however is lacking retention, in my as well as many other player's opinions.

    It is bad form to imply 'good' opinions as the majority and 'bad' opinions as the one rare person. A player poll would really help, but then again we haven't seen one of those in a while, and the results from the last few were ignored, so hmm.
    While you may think that SE is lacking retention to prepay in long term customers, what I see could not be further from the truth. An amazing subscription package for legacy players, ability to transfer characters from 1.0, veteran rewards for players, these are all perks that reward long term players. I played "filthy casual Wow" for 5 years and aside from 6 month bulk discount (which FFXiV also has btw), you have nothing else to entice existing players to resubscribe.

    Please point out where did I state that my opinion constitutes as the majority and that yours as the minority? I'm just stating my observations based on the fact that the population on my server has remained fairly stable and that for every person that leaves in my fc, usually one joins to take its place. So I would kindly ask you not to put words into my mouth. Thank you.
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-croft View Post
    In the context of this thread which is referring to open world for epic gear which could be considered end game gear, it has everything to do with each other.
    Quote me post in this thread which demands epic end game gear from open world content. I'm starting to sound like a broken record but I'll say it again:

    We just want SE to do something useful with the world they've created. If you and people alike are so afraid of it, feel free to stay in your inn room and pop your Duty finder 0/24 if you want, I do not have problem with it.

    And before telling me "Well, you have FATEs, they are open world content!", yeah, sure bro. Their only use at the moment is to level alt characters, but even that is not cost effective since the nerf. Three dungeon mobs or one levequest award more experience than single FATE, and levequests even take less time to complete. In other words, FATEs are obsolete.
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by skaterger View Post
    While you may think that SE is lacking retention to prepay in long term customers, what I see could not be further from the truth. An amazing subscription package for legacy players, ability to transfer characters from 1.0, veteran rewards for players, these are all perks that reward long term players.
    These are things which reward the people who stuck around hoping for an improved FFXIV. They are by no means an effective retention policy. Lower sub cost is the only good thing, but people are leaving because even $10/month for a game you either don't play or don't want to play is a bad deal.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan View Post
    I agree... it can't be all or nothing. Most people who do in fact enjoy the game feel that themissing link is open world content.

    Furthermore, drop rates in the ff series are notorious. Try getting high level non crafted gear in ffxii (zodiak spear) ochiudos kote (sp?) Was no higher than 5%. LOTRO drop rates for epic gear in open and instanced content was awful as well... so yeah op exaggerated but lets not act like none of us have never done that before.
    Finally someone who played lotro like I did. I don't feel alone anymore.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by skaterger View Post
    Please point out where did I state that my opinion constitutes as the majority and that yours as the minority?
    You refer to a negative opinion as 'just mine', when there are countless threads with complaints.
    Quote Originally Posted by skaterger View Post
    so if you think the game is going to crash and burn like 1.0, then its just your opinion.
    You then labeled the 'Hardcore' group as selfish
    Quote Originally Posted by skaterger View Post
    And people say hardcores are complaining about the game <sniped> Guess what? Posts like these show that they only care about themselves
    In the same post say that SE should ignore that other player base
    Quote Originally Posted by skaterger View Post
    SE should not give in to these players
    and then say how your glad they are gone...
    Quote Originally Posted by skaterger View Post
    I am glad they are gone. Good riddiance! You won't be missed!
    So as I said: The game has issues but many will overlook them.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seiryuukishi View Post
    Finally someone who played lotro like I did. I don't feel alone anymore.
    I can say the same about you sir...

    Mae Govannen ^^
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  7. #117
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    We need to stop jumping the gun removing lock outs doesn't mean % drops will occur.

    they ain't mutually exclusive, you can set up a system like CT as example.

    Other systems can be introduced eg per run your loot chance decreases starting off at 100% then to 25% etc.

    OR use the Armoury system more effectively.

    to me RNG is RNG no mater how you split it, currently i think i have looted 1 item in T1-5 in the last 5 weeks as i havn't had the specific drops i need, this is why they have the token system in place any ways.
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  8. #118
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    Alwryn Tourn
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    I swear, some people don't want to have fun.

    I mean, they don't even TRY to have fun.

    Maybe complaining is fun to them.

    Well, that's fine too. I guess.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan View Post
    I can say the same about you sir...

    Mae Govannen ^^
    Mae Govannen, Melon What server were you on?
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    You refer to a negative opinion as 'just mine', when there are countless threads with complaints.

    Again, stop trying to pull wool over people's eyes. The "just" in "just your" has a meaning solely to "solely your", aka it does not refer to everybody. Please go back and attend semantics 101 if you still cannot understand this.


    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    You then labeled the "Hardcore" group as selfish
    And I make no apologies for this one. Go read again what that poster said. No single player or group or players should be bigger than a company, less hold it hostage. If they can do it once, they can do it again. They are a detriment to the longevity and success of any business

    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    In the same post say that SE should ignore that other player base
    See above


    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    and then say how your glad they are gone...
    See above


    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant1 View Post
    So as I said: The game has issues but many will overlook them.
    Technical issues, bugs, server problems, arbitrary problems yes. Subjective personal opinions (i.e. direction the game is heading) not necessarily. And I and many others who share this view did not say that the game has no problems. That's just a straw man argument. Try reading some of my other posts for suggestions for a more open world. I just do so in a more constructive manner.
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