Quick and Dirty - How to DPS in FFXIV

[KrietoR]

Heres a Link to our easy to understand guides on how to DPS in FFXIV:

http://shinra-ffxiv.guildwork.com/fo...754-job-guides

- KrietoR

[Thorauku]

I guess you should atleast put some credits on your "improvised" guides?

[Cons]

Good call on Miasma before Bio II - makes sense - will implement

[Altimis]

@ Cons

No, you misunderstand how it work

Most situation (actually all situation) should be Bio 2 -> Miasma not Miasma -> Bio 2, for debuffs time duration wise.

@ KrietoR

First, thank you for your guide but I have thing to against this (about Summoner DPS)

Excuse that Dreadknight need to be slow immediately is make no sense, you have ST to stun it for 6 sec firsthand already.

There no reason to put Miasma up first, You will have Miasma applied to Dreadknight after ST stun anyway.

[PArcher]

@ Cons

No, you misunderstand how it work

Most situation (actually all situation) should be Bio 2 -> Miasma not Miasma -> Bio 2, for debuffs time duration wise.

@ KrietoR

First, thank you for your guide but I have thing to against this (about Summoner DPS)

Excuse that Dreadknight need to be slow immediately is make no sense, you have ST to stun it for 6 sec firsthand already.

There no reason to put Miasma up first, You will have Miasma applied to Dreadknight after ST stun anyway.

Just to add to this...Miasma adds disease...not slow. Which is Heavy (movement speed slowing, but not the Slow condition) and a Healing Penalty. Soloing I can see a reason to get it up first (more time to get Titan-Egi in position or to kite) but in a party your tank should have aggro and be holding the mob when you start attacking it (yes, I know there are some times that doesn't happen) so Heavy doesn't really matter here...

Only things I can think of that add Slow are Feign (LNC, cross-class BRD and MNK), Haymaker (PGL, cross-class WAR, DRG and BRD) and Lethargy (THM)...if there's another, I can't remember it right now.

[Thaliss]

Just to add to this...Miasma adds disease...not slow. Which is Heavy (movement speed slowing, but not the Slow condition) and a Healing Penalty. Soloing I can see a reason to get it up first (more time to get Titan-Egi in position or to kite) but in a party your tank should have aggro and be holding the mob when you start attacking it (yes, I know there are some times that doesn't happen) so Heavy doesn't really matter here...

Only things I can think of that add Slow are Feign (LNC, cross-class BRD and MNK), Haymaker (PGL, cross-class WAR, DRG and BRD) and Lethargy (THM)...if there's another, I can't remember it right now.

you are correct
But there is shadow flare 5% slow aoe effect too

[Viridiana]

you are correct
But there is shadow flare 5% slow aoe effect too

100%

Seriously, have you ever seen it not inflict Slow?

[Shikiseki]

100%

Seriously, have you ever seen it not inflict Slow?

well it is a sustained slow which always applies on monsters inside Shadow Flare. The effect "potency" of this slow is 5%. That means a slow from a Dragoon is better but it has diminishing returns, Shadowflare still applies this 5% slow regardless.

To the guide itself, it's a quick and dirty guide indeed, good for a quick rundown. In the end, it's just battle experience that makes you better over the time, to find your own personal and optimal playing style.

[PArcher]

100%

Seriously, have you ever seen it not inflict Slow?

I forgot :\ I'm guessing because it doesn't have diminishing returns like most other effects like it, and its always on (and honestly never seems to really do anything...5% off 2.5 seconds really isn't a lot...it doesn't slow oGDC things after all, and that's where the 5% would be really useful on enemies)

[LenTsani]

You bard BiS gearset is way, WAY over acc'ed.

Good effort though.

EDIT: Also, curious to see your testing that proves the stat weights you have for Bard as well. Any links?